Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!osu-cis!n8emr!lwv
From: lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Contructive discussions on Apple future (Was:Re: (none))
Message-ID: <931@n8emr.UUCP>
Date: 19 Mar 89 12:21:18 GMT
References: <8903181257.aa27040@SMOKE.BRL.MIL>
Reply-To: lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Ham BBS, 614-457-4227 (1200/2400/19.2 telebit,8N1)
Lines: 41



Okay, lets drop the Mac bashing (I LIKE the mac as a machine myself - my
concerns are with what is going to happen with the support of the machine
that I have at home).  

instead, lets discuss what it is that we need on our Apples today that we
dont have.  If we dont know what new programs we need, how are we to expect
that we will ever get them.

After we have this list, then we can see amount the 4-5 million Apple users
who would like to fulfill that need.  Even if the commercial folks kill
support for this machine, that doesnt mean that we have to sit here and take
it - or even worse, buy a different machine.  Let's support it ourselves.
I mean - how did Woz begin all of this anyways - wait for someone to build
the first machine and write the first assembler so that he could begin?

I will begin.  What _I_ want on my IIgs is a FAST C compiler.  I need not
have toolbox support.  I do want an ANSI C compiler (current projections
are that the final approval of the ANSI stds will occur in the next 5 weeks).
I do want code that runs fast.  And I would appreciate code which, though 
it might run much slower, was the result of a VERY FAST compile.  What
I mean here is that during development I dont care how fast the code is as
much as I care how fast I can get TO the executable code.

The other thing that I personally want on my IIgs is Minix, or something
like it.  Minix is a Unix-alike which permits multitasking and I believe
even multiuser capabilities.  I want to be able to run a 'subset'
of Unix here at the house, without going out and selling my GS and buying
a MS-DOS machine or an Atari.

Now I am certainly willing to work on Minix - but I am not even going to
start until I get a good C compiler.  The other thing that I need to buy
is a hard disk of some sort - and I am working on that right now (got
to get those taxes done first).

-- 
Larry W. Virden	 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068 (614) 864-8817
75046,606 (CIS) ; LVirden (ALPE) ; osu-cis!n8emr!lwv (UUCP) 
osu-cis!n8emr!lwv@TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (INTERNET)
The world's not inherited from our parents, but borrowed from our children.