Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!ukma!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ukc.ac.UK!FTP From: FTP@ukc.ac.UK (UKC FTP Daemon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Failure of your mail. Message-ID: <8903130124.AA19862@mcvax.cwi.nl> Date: 13 Mar 89 09:03:32 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 115 Your mail to uk.co.stc.idec failed when the file was transferred. The mail at this host was to be sent to the follow addresses. stuser%uucp.cel@uk.co.stc.idec This was due to an error at uk.co.stc.idec. The reason given was: File access denied The body of your mail follows. Received: from nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk by kestrel.Ukc.AC.UK via Janet (UKC CAMEL FTP) id aa27084; 11 Mar 89 17:36 GMT Received: from NSS.CS.UCL.AC.UK by NSS.Cs.Ucl.AC.UK via List-Channel id aa10406; 11 Mar 89 16:01 GMT Received: from score.stanford.edu by NSS.Cs.Ucl.AC.UK via Satnet with SMTP id aa10275; 11 Mar 89 15:49 GMT Date: Fri 10 Mar 89 18:31:30 PST Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V89 #72 From: Info-Atari16 Digest Original-Sender: Info-Atari16-request@edu.stanford.score Errors-to: Info-Atari16-request@Score.Stanford.EDU Maint-Path: Info-Atari16-request@Score.Stanford.EDU To: Info-Atari16 Distribution List: ; Reply-to: Info-Atari16@edu.stanford.score Sender: info-atari16-request@uk.ac.ucl.cs.nss Info-Atari16 Digest Friday, March 10, 1989 Volume 89 : Issue 72 This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield Today's Topics: Hard Drive Kits Re: Right of reply, virus- public, private- a thin line Fun With Your Hard Drive Project Messenger Plus software for Magic Sac form_dial() (was Re: Who have I clobbered? (GEM windows)) Discovery questions? FTP sites Debugger/Monitor Re: lc Re: Fleet Street Publisher 2.0 Virus 101 - Chapter 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Mar 89 16:09:18 GMT From: nyser!cmx!wotan!gjwelych@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Greg Welych) Subject: Hard Drive Kits To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu Hi there. I just purchased a Sheagate ST4096 80Meg full height hard drive, and would like to know which hard dive kits are the best? I have various questions about the kits: 1) Which kits support full height dives? 2) Which interface hardware is the best? 3) Which softare best supports an 80Meg drive? How many partitions are allowed? Auto-bootable? Whats the maximum size of a partition? Is it compatible with Minix or other OSs? 4) How large is the case? Does the fan make alot of noise? 5) Which Adaptec interface is the best for a MFM drive? 6) Which kit is the fastest? Which is the easist to put together? 7) What are the prices? Please Email me directly. If anybody wants me to summarize, send me Email. Thanks in advance for any and all replies. Greg Welych. gjwelych@top.cis.syr.edu #! rnews ------------------------------ Date: 1 Mar 89 15:14:57 GMT From: biar!trebor@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu (Robert J Woodhead) Subject: Re: Right of reply, virus- public, private- a thin line To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu In article <1154@lzfme.att.com> jwi@lzfme.att.com (Jim Winer @ AT&T, Middletown, NJ) writes: >Most virus detecting programs work by intercepting writes to the >hard disk and by checksumming programs before running them. A small >change in a virus is not going to make it invisible to this type of >checking. Correct (sort of) but misleading. Virus detecting inits such as Vaccine work by intercepting certain resource manager calls. Unfortunately, they can get in the way. Checksumming programs is fine, but it involves adding checksums to each application or storing them in a central file; each is vulnerable to viral action. Viruses can be reprogrammed to avoid these. Additionally, when you talk about detect and REPAIR programs, small changes in viruses will make them invisible and/or unrepairable until the program is updated. This is because none of these programs want to take a chance of "repairing" an uninfected version of "Whiz-bang-space-aliens v1.2" just because it looks sort of like it is infected by a virus. We are extremely specific in our check criteria in order to avoid this unfortunate consequence. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Robert J Woodhead !uunet!cornell!biar!trebor CompuServe 72447,37 | | Biar Games, Inc., 10 Spruce Lane, Ithaca NY 14850 607-257-1708,3864(fax) | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Games written, Viruses killed "I'm the head honcho of this here spread; | | While U Wait. Take a number. I don't need no stinking disclaimers!!!" | ------------------------------ Date: 2 Mar 89 04:18:13 GMT **** Rest omitted - too long!