Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU!Info-Mac-Request From: Info-Mac-Request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest Subject: Info-Mac Digest V7 #52 Message-ID: <8903162355.AA16857@sumex-aim.stanford.edu> Date: 16 Mar 89 23:54:46 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Organization: The Internet Lines: 373 Approved: info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu Info-Mac Digest Thu, 16 Mar 89 Volume 7 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: Bouncing ball demo getting started in LSC--help! GIF specifications I need a scripting language Need AppleShare Administrators book New mailserver command Novell vs. MacJanet Osaka 16L1 font in KanjiTalk v2.0 Query on Mac CPU Upgrades Remember 1.3 Request for info System error 2; Network question Thunderscan resolution Window cdev Your Info-Mac Moderators are Lance Nakata, Jon Pugh, and Bill Lipa. The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Please send articles and binaries to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. Send administrative mail to info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 89 15:05:29 -0600 From: Charles J Reiman Subject: Bouncing ball demo I have this program I've written that I would like to have placed in info-mac at stanford. It's a simple graphics demo that is sort of a crazy cross between a bouncing ball and a physics lecture. Please give it a try and post it. If you do post it, let me know so I can be sure I'm doing this sumbission correctly. Thanks! Charlie Reiman cjr20670@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu [Archived as /info-mac/app/bouncing-ball-demo.hqx; 10K] ------------------------------ Date: Thursday, 16 March 1989 9:29am From: ZODA537@uta3081.cc.utexas.edu (J.A.HAYES) Subject: getting started in LSC--help! Hello, net. We (spouse & I) have a copy (legal) of Lightspeed C and I know diddly about it. My wife is trying to teach herself C in this language, is good in Hypercard, and I'm a fair LSPascal programmer, but we're having trouble getting started. Can anybody point us to a tutorial in electronic or printed form that would get us through the basics of programming *in a Lightspeed C environment*? I'm afraid the manual that comes with the compiler is just not very helpful as it assumes you know how to program in the first place, while other C manuals assume you know how to use your C compiler. Any input would be appreciated. I suspect this is not of general interest (though who knows?) so you could mail directly to me unless you want to make a more widely-read plug. If I get sufficient responses I'll summarize to the net. Gracias! Josh Hayes, Zoology, University of Texas at Austin zoda537@uta3081.bitnet zoda537@uta3081.cc.utexas.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 89 10:37:59 -0900 From: Reed Rector Subject: GIF specifications A few weeks ago, I asked for someone to send me the Graphics Interchange Format (GIF) specifications. The replys were mixed.... half of the people had the specs, and the other half wanted a copy, so it seems that the Archive is a good place for it. I also recieved some 'C' source code to do the encoding and decoding, but it is not specifically for the Mac. If there is sufficient demand, I could also send the code to Info-Mac. For all the people that responded, thanks for your interest and help. -Reed SXWRR@ALASKA (BITNET) SXWRR@acad3.fai.alaska.edu (Internet) [Archived as /info-mac/art/gif/gif-format.txt; 32K] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 89 21:24 CST From: "Kevin W. Mullet, UNT Academic Computing Services" Subject: I need a scripting language I need to find a program. I'm writing a tutorial for Aldus PageMaker that is essentially a HyperCard Stack that I occasionally shell out of to demo and test the user on certain features of PageMaker. I need to find a program that will allow me to shell out of HyperCard and run controlled scripts of actions in PageMaker, occasionally polling the user and performing logical constructs based on user replies and (if possible) the contents of the screen. I vaguely remember reading about such an animal in a fairly recent magazine, but I'll be dashed it I can find it. So this is why I'm polling the experience of the Net. Has anyone ever seen, heard, or used such a thing? Please send all replies to me. I'll summarize them and mail them to the list. Thanks in advance, Kevin Mullet University of North Texas Microcomputer Support BITNET: KEV@UNTVAX INTERNET: KEV@VAXA.ACS.UNT.EDU THENET: NTVAXA::KEV StaticNet: (817) 5652316 ------------------------------ Date: 16 Mar 89 07:19:06 GMT From: zz1he%sdcc19@ucsd.edu (Heather Ebey) Subject: Need AppleShare Administrators book I am installing AppleShare 2.0.1. Though the books that come with it cover all the basics, they don't go into the nitty/gritties of how to really optimize AppleShare or short cuts for entering and deleting 500-2000 users each quarter. I can't seem to find a book, something like Tips and Tricks of AppleShare Administration. Does such a book exist? I checked both APDA and Tech Alliance. I didn't see anything in their catalogs. Please e-mail me the title/author of any book you know of along these lines. Thank you. -----------hebey@ucsd (Internet, Bitnet, UUCP )------------- Heather Ebey, Micro Support Voice: (619) 534-2448 UCSD, Academic Computing Center, C-010, La Jolla, CA. 92093 -------------All views expressed are my own----------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 89 12:40:27 CST From: "Mark R. Williamson" Subject: New mailserver command [Here's a message from the maintainer of the Info-Mac archive server for Bitnet at Rice.] If you haven't tried it yet, you might try the new $MACARCH DIR command, which allows you to get just a portion of the contents listing as a smaller file which should traverse the network faster than the full $MACARCH CONTENTS file. "$MACARCH DIR" alone returns a list of the top level Info-Mac archive directory (mostly just subdirectory names), while "$MACARCH DIR INIT" for example will return just the file names in the subdirectory named INIT. At the moment, this only works for a single level, so DIR ART includes some ART/GIF/blah files and DIR ART/GIF is an error, but I hope to extend it to arbitrary subdirectories. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 89 22:05:48 EST From: Jim Streb Subject: Novell vs. MacJanet We are currently planning a mac lab with 25 machines and would like to hear >From any MacJanet or Novell Netware 2.15 users. If anyone out there has ANY experience, good or bad, with either product, please address your comments to me. I will post summaries to the list. Some things to keep in mind when comparing network software: how fast does the network seem, how many workstations are you running, what type of application software are you using, what physical media are you using, e.g., are you using Ethernet, Applenet, phonenet, etc. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 89 14:04:06 GMT From: mcvax!cs.aber.ac.uk!cho@uunet.uu.net Subject: Osaka 16L1 font in KanjiTalk v2.0 I am attempting to install KanjiTalk 2.0 on an English, twin 800k, 1Mb, Mac Plus. Both the font disk and system disk are inserted and the following warning message (in Kana) appears 'Osaka16L1 ga isosuto dekimasen deshita' (I think) Any ideas what has happened ? I try running macDraw( v1.9.5) and the font menu thinks that points 9,12,18 and 24 in Osaka and Kyoto font are resident, but 18 and 24 point KanjiKana seem hopelessly chunky :-( Chris Orgill, tel +44 970 623111 x3227 Computer Science Department, cho%cs.aber.ac.uk@uunet.uu.net (ARPA) University College of Wales, cho@uk.ac.aber.cs (JANET) Aberystwyth, Dyfed, United Kingdom. SY23 3BZ. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Mar 89 22:47:00 EST From: "Charles E. Bouldin" Subject: Query on Mac CPU Upgrades In the days prior to the Mac II there were a few of us who went out and got 68020 cpu "bolt-ons" for the Mac+. This is easier on the SE and even easier on the Mac II (where you go for higher clock or 68030). I am interested in doing a survey of who uses what 3rd party cpu upgrades, in what machines, how well they perform, etc. I use a Novy Systems 68020, so I am interested in hearing the experiences of others. The large recent review articles in MacUser and MacWorld make it sound like the cpu upgrade board business is thriving. Is this the case? If I get enough responses, I will summarize back to info-mac. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 89 16:36:02 -0500 From: isle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Ken Hancock) Subject: Remember 1.3 Enclosed is Remember 1.3. New features include color support and buttons to advance calendar month and year. Enjoy! Ken Hancock '90 | BITNET/UUCP/ Personal Computing Ctr Consultant | INTERNET: isle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu -----------------------------------+---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER? I don't get paid enough to worry about disclaimers. [Archived as /info-mac/init/remember-13.hqx; 89K] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 89 09:34:30 EST From: abm@mbunix.mitre.org Subject: Request for info I'm trying to locate some educational software that will teach/drill basic english grammar to high school level kids. Preference is for MAC+ but might be able to use AppleII. Thanks in advance Alex Murphy abm@mbunix.mitre.org (617) 271-2284 ------------------------------ Date: 16 Mar 89 01:20:00 CST From: "Sharbutt, Albert" Subject: System error 2; Network question I have two questions: first, I have had trouble with applications quitting and generating error number 2 (odd address). The problem usually occurs when launching an application, but also happens when pasting or other operations. I switched from system tools 5.0 to 6.0.2, but that didn't correct the problem. I also tried removing inits and cdevs. It doesn't seem to matter what program is run or whether multifinder is on. Has anyone else had the same problem? What can be done to fix it? Second, I have been trying to contact a friend who is connected to a distant DECnet. She is able to send mail to me on on DECnet to an InterNet gateway. Since her system is not on InterNet or BITnet, it seems that any mail I send to her would need to be sent via InterNet or BITnet to a gateway, then send on via DECnet, but I have been unable to do this. Are gateways truly one-way, or is there a way to get a message through? Thanks for your help... BITnet: Z3ALS@TTACS1 InterNet: Z3ALS@TTACS.TTU.EDU ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 89 22:39 CST From: "Sandro Corsi, Univ.of WI-Oshkosh" Subject: Thunderscan resolution We use Thunderscan quite heavily, and for its price it gives us amazingly competent results. The scanning resolution can be varied by changing the magnification of the image being scanned. Magnification ranges up to 800%, but the manual cautions that beyond 400% Thunderscan is not really reading any more detail in the image, just interpolating. At any rate, scanning at 400% and printing at 25% magnification still works out to a respectable 288 dots (*samples* would be more appropriate) per inch spatial resolution. And you also get 5 bits of gray-scale resolution (32 grays). The scanned image can be saved in Thunderscan's own SCAN format (which can be imported directly into such programs as ImageStudio), TIFF, and EPSF. If gray-scale information is not important, and all you need is a bitmap, then also PNTG (MacPaint) and PICT formats are available. As far as I could de- termine, PICT2 is not supported -- though it might be because we have it hooked up to a MacSE (no Color QuickDraw ROM support). On the down side: - Sloooow: a full page at 400% magnification could easily tie up your Image- Writer for the better part of an hour. There's no workaround -- the limit is in the mechanics of the printer. - Again because of all the mechanical going-ons, there are minor mis- alignments of scanlines. Also, you have to nurse the printer-turned-scanner for the first few lines until it settles down and you are satisfied that it is not pouring scrambled garbage into the Mac. The "edge sensing" 1/2 inch wide white stripe on the LEFT is critical to proper operations, and works best if it is directly incorporated into the image to be scanned. Other limitations on image size are due to the need to get the top of the picture underneath the paper bail (approx.1" margin, TOP), the need to have the paper firmly pressed against the platen until the end of the scan (1/2" ca., BOTTOM); and TS's penchant for scrambling the image if it is made to scan the entire width of the sheet of paper (1/2" ca., RIGHT). The manual says that TS will also work with a wide-carriage ImageWriter, but I haven't had a chance to verify that claim. - Apple turned the cards several times on TS with respect to its power require- ments. In the pre-Plus Macs, the serial ports provided enough power on one of the pins to power TS. That was eliminated from subsequent Macintosh models, and TS therefore came up with an ungainly contraption (included in the price of purchase) which draws power from the external drive port (the port is still available for its intended purpose -- connecting floppy drives). Since such a port is missing from the II and IIx, to use TS with those Macs you need an extra-cost power accessory (that's why we have our TS plugged into an SE). I have no idea, as of this writing, how things might once again change with the IIcx external drive port. - I hoped that the scanner would work through our ImageWriter's AppleTalk card interface, and be visible across the network. Nice try, but... I guess it would have been asking too much from such a simple thing. - We've had problems scanning at 400% and saving as SCAN. ImageStudio will not interpret the files properly. However, if the same image is saved as TIFF there are no problems -- and I couldn't determine who's to blame, TS or ImageStudio. Hope all this helps. Best regards. Sandro Corsi Art Dept. Univ. of Wisconsin - Oshkosh Oshkosh, WI 54901 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Mar 89 11:43 PST From: "Vladimir Ivanovic 415.423.7786" Subject: Window cdev When I use the cdev Window, a combination cdev-INIT which puts a 'Window' item in the menu bar of every application, my mouse pointer blinks. My first question is: Is this a Good Thing? or a Bad Thing? or an Irrelevant Thing? Is someone polling something which causes the mouse pointer to blink? My second question (prompted by the polling above) is: Has anyone else noticed that the Mac slows down whenever (the demo version of ) Comment 2.0 is installed? I assume that since some comments are potentially deliverable at a certain time, that Comment polls the clock to find out when to deliver a reminder. Is there another reason why things slow down? I've found that typing in Word 3.01 is unacceptably slow with Comment installed, hence I haven't bought the real version. ------------------------------ End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************