Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:28385 comp.sys.mac.programmer:5019 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!purdue!bu-cs!bloom-beacon!husc6!sri-unix!stores From: stores@unix.SRI.COM (Matt Mora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: New Mac Programmer -- HELP! *Commentary added Keywords: Mac, Macintosh, Help, Programming, @%^#%$ Message-ID: <28588@sri-unix.SRI.COM> Date: 14 Mar 89 18:02:23 GMT References: <64@sppy00.UUCP> <3949@ece-csc.UUCP> Reply-To: stores@unix.sri.com (Matt Mora) Distribution: na Organization: SRI, Menlo Park, CA. Lines: 36 In article <3949@ece-csc.UUCP> jnh@ece-csc.UUCP (Joseph Nathan Hall) writes: >Seriously, folks. These are simple questions but unfortunately not stupid >questions in the Mac programming world. I find it immensely frustrating >sometimes trying to discern the *simplest* things about the Toolbox and >OS calls. There isn't even a good description of what a complex, real-world >event loop should look like in Apple's documentation. > >For example: IM I has a TextEdit chapter. But where does it say that >lines in the TextEdit record are terminated in carriage returns? (What >should I assume? Could be LFs, NULLs, whatever!) Where does it say whether some stuff deleted >Furthermore, there should be GOOD examples of complex Pascal and C event >loops available from Apple (in a book!)--something like a Macintosh >Application Programmer's Guide. Not piecemeal (Programming for Multifinder-- >yuck!), but a good, solid, systematic introduction to the event loop >programming style, + common idiomatic techniques, readily available. You more stuff deleted >But still ... what do we user/programmers have to do to get decent reference >materials from Apple? Why do we join APDA, collect inaccurate/ Maybe some of us on the net can draft a book (article,letter or what ever you want to call it) on the subject of beginning macintosh programming and call it "Everything that you wanted to know about mac programming but were afraid to ask!". It could include up-to-date info on the Mac and source code examples. some snippits from the net about gotchas and bugs. That way if someone asks on the net about beginning programming on the mac we could just email them a copy. just an Idea :-) Matt Mora SRI International