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From: mac@mrk.ardent.com (Michael McNamara)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,gnu.emacs
Subject: Re: Query: Interesting Applications of Emacs
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Date: 14 Mar 89 21:58:31 GMT
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In article <1296@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> seth@ctr.columbia.edu (Seth Robertson) writes:
|In article <1908@randvax.UUCP> salzman@rand.org (Isaac Salzman) writes:
|>Hello netland! Does anyone really use Emacs as a login shell?
|>* Isaac J. Salzman                                            ----     
|
|If it wern't for ksh, I might actually do that IF emacs had job
|control!!  When you can't suspend or background or even cancel(!) a
|job, the shell mode isn't really usuable.
|
|Of course if I just havn't RTFM (I have, though) and there is a way to
|use job control, then please tell me.
+---------You asked:
	All the job control of the underlying shell is available; if
that shell is ksh or csh, then C-z, bg & fg all work ( albeit you'll
have to quote the C-z via C-q C-z, or use the Shell mode mapping of
"C-c C-z stop-shell-subjob". {from help on shell-mode} )

	Interrupt works for every shell I know of: either C-q C-c or
"C-c C-c interrupt-shell-subjob" {from help on shell-mode}

	This info, and helpful hints about any mode you are in is
available via C-h m.  C-h m should perhaps be used before you RTFM, as
it is a much more immediate and directed a form of help; it tells you
*NOW* about the mode you are in *NOW*.  R'ingTFM losses due to having
to find the FM, and having to find the pertinate information in the
FM.
	[ Note: C-h m means hit control H then m. ]

	Note also that there are further ksh'isms available for
shell.el that make things like C-c C-p scroll through your shell
history just like j or C-p do in ksh(1). If you want this, ask here
and someone will post this.

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|						-Seth
|						 seth@ctr.columbia.edu
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Michael McNamara 
  mac@ardent.com