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From: bill@twwells.uucp (T. William Wells)
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Subject: Re: I'm tired of alt.rissa!
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Date: 14 Mar 89 14:37:42 GMT
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Reply-To: bill@twwells.UUCP (T. William Wells)
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In article <13356@steinmetz.ge.com> davidsen@crdos1.UUCP (bill davidsen) writes:
: In article <763@twwells.uucp> bill@twwells.UUCP (T. William Wells) writes:
:
: | HOWEVER, some *ssholes are in the business of creating alt groups as
: | a prank, or as a public statement, or what have you.  Unfortunately,
: | there being no constraint on creating alt groups, I really don't have
: | any grounds for telling them to f*ck off. Though they should.
:
:   I think you're looking for a solution to something which isn't a
: problem. The alt groups are only carried by those who want to carry
: them. Having one person create a newsgroup is not going to harm
: anything, if the volume or content is unsuitable people will do a manual
: rmgroup and stop feeding it.

No, No, NO, NO!!! You don't understand. I perfectly well understand
that the alt groups are an anarchy. And that anyone getting them has
to put up with that. BUT, the current software was two options: one
which requires no action on my part to create a newsgroup, and is
appropriate for all the hierarchies where there is a semblance of
control, and another with which I have to do manual newgroups, and is
appropriate for dealing with an anarchy.

What I'm looking for, and have found (part of B news patchlevel 17),
is an option that lets me do both. That makes it easier for me to
have both kinds of hierarchies on my system.

The point of what the above paragraph was to express my displeasure
with those inevitable louses which will inhabit an anarchy while
recognizing that accepting the alt groups as anarchy means that I may
not say that they are *wrong*.

:   If this happens too often sites close to the source will stop carrying
: the offending site completely. The price of freedom of speech is that
: you might hear something which offends you, such as people offended by
: your language, or you being offended by this reply.

Oh, true. I'm not about to try to stop the alt.idiots. I just don't
want to be a part of their rmgroup war.

:   If alt.rissa offends you, press the 'u' key gently but firmly. Don't
: carry it. Don't forward it. I haven't seen any signal to noise at all in
: it, but I really don't care. Maybe if we ignore the group it will go
: away (now I'm sure rissa is mad at me, too).

It's not that easy. With my current setup, I get constant messages
bugging me to create/rmgroup this thing. It's not the newsgroup
itself that bothers me, I could cheerfully ignore it along with the
other almost 400 groups I don't read, it is the irritation of dealing
with the messages.

---
Bill
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(BTW, I'm going to be looking for a new job sometime in the next
few months.  If you know of a good one, do send me e-mail.)