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From: root@libove.UUCP (Jay M. Libove)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Suggesstion for C NEWS and 3.0 NEWS
Message-ID: <235@libove.UUCP>
Date: 18 Mar 89 14:05:32 GMT
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Regarding the suggestions below:

I fully support Mr. Dobnick's suggestions regarding default state
for the /usr/spool/news/news/announce/newusers/ directory and
~/.newsrc subscription lists.

I have always tried to get people to read the netiquette documents
before using the networks, and think that this setup would be a
great help to the network in keeping down understandable but still
extremely annoying wrong behaviour by new users.

From article <1522@csd4.milw.wisc.edu>, by jgd@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (John G Dobnick):
> 	ANY and ALL news transport/reader systems shall include a set
> 	of the "netiquette" articles to "prime" a newly created news
> 	spool directory.
> 
> 	When a new user is detected (perhaps by an empty .newsrc file?),
> 	create a "prototype" .newsrc  file for that user which displays
> 	news.announce.newusers FIRST! This will expose the new user to
> 	the "rules of the game" as the DEFAULT action of news.
> 	
> (I had proposed these changes about two years ago and was hooted down.
> Some people agreed with me.  More disagreed -- and quite loudly, too.  The
> general reaction then, as *I* interpreted it, was "it won't cure the problem
> at *all* sites, so let's do nothing!", and "nothing" was done.  Inertia is a
> powerful force to tangle with -- I hope we can overcome it this time around.
> Perhaps a Bran' Spankin' New news system will do it.)

I can not understand why you were shot down then.

I hope that you are not shot down now.

> John G Dobnick 
> INTERNET: jgd@csd4.milw.wisc.edu

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