Xref: utzoo sci.physics:6297 sci.math:6009 sci.electronics:5556 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!ames!pacbell!att!ihlpf!gmark From: gmark@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Stewart) Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math,sci.electronics Subject: Re: noise cancellation Summary: Yep Keywords: anti-noise Message-ID: <7973@ihlpf.ATT.COM> Date: 14 Mar 89 22:17:31 GMT References: <723@wucs1.wustl.edu> <7260@fluke.COM> <1290@wpi.wpi.edu> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois Lines: 37 In article <1290@wpi.wpi.edu>, lfoard@wpi.wpi.edu (Lawrence C Foard) writes: > In article <7260@fluke.COM> inc@tc.fluke.COM (Gary Benson) writes: > >... > >The idea behind "anti-noise" as you call it is that you generate an exact > or boost certain frequencys. I wonder if there is any market for this?? As a matter of fact, I got the idea in junior high school, so I imagine a lot of people had it. As for marketability, there is a British firm, I believe, that make both huge speakers and headphones using the cancelation technique for repetitive, easily predictable, and therefore needing very little computational power to cancel, for the noise created by road construction equipment. Reportedly makes work much less destructive to workers' ears. An interesting use for this I was considering was to do this (assuming computational power was available) for cars. Sound takes a while to transmit through the vehicle. Place microphone(s) outside at different points, such as near the muffler and suspension components and just generate anti-noise for them. Would make a Pinto sound like a Caddy, maybe? Or a Mercedes sound like your front room? In any case, it would have to have some effect on the noise. And a car already has the sound equipment. Essentially, this is just a computerized version of "tailoring" a sound system for a particular make of car. The ultimate version of this might take into account wind noise at different points in the car, as well as probably have a lessening effect on non-vehicle related sounds, like nearby cars & trucks, etc., since all the noise outside the vehicle would probably be picked up the bye microphones and hence, compensated for. This could also be hooked to transducers on the frame itself, compensating, possibly, for conducted noise. Wow, hook this with the computerized shock absorption system in the next generation Vette, and you could have quite a comfortable quiet rocket. - Mark G. Mark Stewart ATT_BTL, Naperville, Ill. ix1g266 ihlpq!gms (312)979-0914