Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!rochester!rutgers!att!cbnews!mjs From: mjs@cbnews.ATT.COM (martin.j.shannon) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,comp.periphs Subject: Designing for the FHF (was Re: Proprietary hardware) Summary: Design for faster than you can possibly imagine! Keywords: schematics, repair information, free software foundation, Message-ID: <4899@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 16 Mar 89 17:56:09 GMT References: <2140@cpoint.UUCP> <3743@stiatl.UUCP> <1204@naucse.UUCP> <1410@husc6.harvard.edu> <18167@gatech.edu> Reply-To: mjs@cbnews.ATT.COM (martin.j.shannon) Followup-To: sci.electronics,comp.periphs Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 31 Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:5571 comp.periphs:1623 In article <18167@gatech.edu> ken@gatech.UUCP (Ken Seefried iii) writes: >I like the idea of a FHF. Some friends and I have been discussing a >'public-domain workstation', a higher-end machine whose design is >freely availible for anyone to build (look a the GNU license). The >idea is to run the GNU kernal when and if it ever becomes availible. >Then (theoreticly), you could build a workstation for cost of parts >and time. We have evaluated several approaches to this design. >Comments? Yeah, I'd like to suggest that you design for something better than what current technology can do now. Over the last several years, processor speeds have increased something like a factor of 5, and although ther are claims that the end is in sight, I mostly don't really believe it. For instance, there's a company that's shipping 30MHz 80386-based machines (using hi-spec 25MHz parts) today -- how long will it be before there's a 40MHz "official" part? So "we" need to design for an (at least potentially) incredibly fast bus, and include a large (256K?) cache (the larger the cache, the slower "main" memory can be), option for hardware floating point, and a "real" intelligent ports card, and some flavor of Ethernet(TM), and a fast multi- drive disk controller (SCSI-2 may be a real good standard, speed- and compatibility-wise), hardware implementation of X-Windows, and (what else do *you* want to see?) .... But the main point is to look ahead of what current technology *can* do. > ...ken seefried iii > ken@gatech.edu -- Marty Shannon; AT&T Bell Labs; Liberty Corner, NJ (Affiliation given for identification only.)