Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!decwrl!shelby!Portia!hanauma!joe From: joe@hanauma.stanford.edu (Joe Dellinger) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: 1992 moon base - Teleoperation Message-ID: <860@Portia.Stanford.EDU> Date: 13 Mar 89 08:49:57 GMT References: <553934.890311.MINSKY@AI.AI.MIT.EDU> Sender: USENET News System Reply-To: joe@hanauma.stanford.edu (Joe Dellinger) Organization: Stanford University, Dept. of Geophysics Lines: 29 I remember reading an article describing how they train pilots of Oil Tankers. They sit them in a very small very slow motor boat in a small pond, and put HUGE delays on all the controls, like 30 seconds. The article said that for a while the pilots would crash the boat against the walls, etc, etc, but with a little practice they would learn to pilot it exactly where they wanted to go without thinking. Your body gets by with the "huge" delays in our bizarre electrical - chemical circuitry because the feedback loops can be cut short in certain critical cases. If you start to burn your hand, it jumps away from the heat literally before you have time to think about it. You can, on the other hand, also override such reflexes by conscious effort. Other more complicated things, like learning to shut your eye when you hear a certain tone, can be "hardwired" into your lower brain with a little practice. (Really!) Etc. Mammalian nerves carry signals faster than "more primitive" life's did, and yet 100 foot long dinosaurs whose nervous system probably took half a second to carry a signal from their hind feet to their head and back evidently walked around on irregular terrain at respectable speeds without tripping over their own feet. It seems to me that telepresence shouldn't be ruled out. We just need to train people to get used to it, and learn enough robotics to have some "reflexes" handled locally. \ /\ /\ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\.-.-.-.-.......___________ \ / \ / \ /Dept of Geophysics, Stanford University \/\/\.-.-....___ \/ \/ \/Joe Dellinger joe@hanauma.stanford.edu apple!hanauma!joe\/\.-._