Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!elroy!orion.cf.uci.edu!uci-ics!ucla-cs!gblee From: gblee@maui.cs.ucla.edu Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: GD and LSE Message-ID: <22206@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 24 Mar 89 18:56:24 GMT Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Reply-To: gblee@CS.UCLA.EDU () Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 27 > There is another paper with a similar claim. ************************************************************** > "Gradient descent fails to separate" is its title. > By : M. Brady and R.Raghavan ***************************************************** >The paper shows the failure of BP in the case of examples where >there are no local minima. They assert (and they could be right as ... > > (FIAT LUX) Can you tell us where the paper you mentioned is published and when? May be somebody else in this news group are also interested in ... I know another similar paper which attacked GD.... Sutton, R. Two problems with BP and other steepest-descent learning procedures for networks. He points out: 1. steepest descent is a particulary poor for surface containing "ravines" 2. steepest descent results in high level of interference between learning with different patterns... Unfortunately, I forgot where this paper was published. Can anybody out there tell where it was published for us? --Geunbae Lee AI lab, UCLA