Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bionet!agate!witch.Berkeley.EDU!matloff From: matloff@witch.Berkeley.EDU (Norman Matloff) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: was: Don't look back. What about looking east? Message-ID: <21885@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 22 Mar 89 02:54:54 GMT References: <7287@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <2851@eos.UUCP> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: matloff@iris.ucdavis.edu (Norm Matloff) Organization: EECS, UC Davis Lines: 28 In article <2851@eos.UUCP> eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) writes: >Dave "Steve" Stevenson was just here. We, including Norm Matloff, >Daryl Long, and others have been talking about a foreign language requirement >for CS majors. What do you think, full sensory overload? Too much? >A PhD in math frequently requires 2 foreign languages (typically Russian >and German), see what distinguishes academics from industry? >Learn some Japanese. Eugene, you have a better memory than I do. I don't remember saying that, but since I do agree with the sentiment, I must have said it. :-) 2 languages is too much, but I think that 1 is quite reasonable. Note that reading CS in a foreign language is a lot harder than reading Math, so that would be another reason to keep it down to only 1 language. Eugene's points about our insularity are well-taken. But I personally am more concerned more about the quality of engineers the U.S. is producing. I know one person who is a well-regarded software engineer in a prominent Silicon Valley firm who thinks that all machines have the same machine language (no, this is NOT a joke). That's an extreme case, granted, but I do feel that there are a lot more of the weaker-level people in the industry these days than there used to be, both in hardware and systems software. [No one who reads comp.arch is in this category, of course. :-) ] Norm