Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!elroy!gryphon!vector!telecom-gateway From: cvman!gdelong@cvbnet.uucp (Gary Delong) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Calling Party ID Message-ID: Date: 22 Mar 89 20:17:55 GMT Sender: news@vector.UUCP Lines: 41 Approved: telecom-request@vector.uucp X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@vector.uucp X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 103, message 4 of 4 In article , dgc@math.ucla.edu writes: > > Finally, on a closely related matter. A note to the moderator: It IS > POSSIBLE to discuss matters of this nature without ad hominum arguments, > such as your statements "A group calling itself the American 'Civil > Liberties' Union has also . . . " and "Next thing you know, the ACLU > and others will want to outlaw peepholes . . . ", etc. Your arguments, > asking about the rights of people who get "anonymous, harassing phone > calls in the middle of the night" are quite valid (though the proposal > above would answer them) and you weaken your case by your unnecesary and > uncalled-for comments. > I think I can see the moderator's point. It is interesting to note that the A**U always seems to be more concerned with the rights of the criminals than those of the victims. I too have often thought that 'Civil Liberties' didn't seem to fit their actions. Of course they do seem to shy away from cases where victims become the accused. I also find it interesting that the terms "ad hominum", "racist", "sexist", and "discrimination" seem most often used today by those who offer no arguments capable of standing on their own merits. PS: Is there a "conservative" verison of the ACLU? --- _____ / \ / Gary A. Delong, N1BIP "I am the NRA." gdelong@cvman.prime.com | \ / COMPUTERVISION Division {sun|linus}!cvbnet!gdelong \____\/ Prime Computer, Inc. (603) 622-1260 x 261 [Moderator's Note: I love it! But in fairness to the list, and the folks who read comp.dcom.telecom for telephone talk, followups to Mr. Delong's message should go direct to Mr. Delong or perhaps talk.politics.misc. *Not here*. The print media I've seen to date (Royko, Sun-Times, others) have taken the ACLU to task for its position on Caller ID. Lest Delong go completely unchallenged in his heresy however, in the next digest, number 104, a scathing attack on your moderator for his original posting. PT]