Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!lll-winken!uunet!mcvax!kth!sunic!dkuug!iesd!fischer From: fischer@iesd.dk (Lars P. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Structure editors (Re: UNIX needs a real text editor) Message-ID: <1628@iesd.dk> Date: 1 Apr 89 06:52:53 GMT References: <222@imspw6.UUCP> <252@torch.UUCP> <2112@mister-curious.sw.mcc.com> <2384@buengc.BU.EDU> <3565@ficc.uu.net> Sender: fischer@iesd.dk Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Aalborg Lines: 31 In-reply-to: peter@ficc.uu.net's message of 27 Mar 89 20:30:54 GMT In article <3565@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: >Has anyone actually had a good experience with one of these? I've used >language-oriented editors and structure-chart code generators, and I've >found neither to be worth the time or money. Check out the AI and LISP litterature. The InterLisp people *love* their structure editor, with DWIM (do-what-I-mean) interface and all that (See [1]). Lots of research have gone into language-based editor, and many people find these editors to be very good. Me? I use Gnu Emacs, and haven't seen a language-based editor worth the effort. It's all a matter of taste. Choice of editor is, after all, one of the most *personal* things there is. /Lars [1] Erik Sandewall: "Programming in an Interactive Environment: The Lisp Experience", in David R. Barstow and Howard E. Shrobe and Erik Sandewall: "Interactive Programming Environments", McGraw-Hill, 1984, pp 31-80. This guy really love InterLisp and it's editor. The article is followed by a letter from Richard M Stallman (creator of Emacs), stating that structure oriented editors are No Good, and a letter by Sandawall stating that RMS is All Wrong. Great fun! -- Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.dk, {...}!mcvax!iesd!fischer Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci., University of Aalborg Strandvejen 19, DK-9000 Aalborg, DENMARK Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke