Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!sharkey!teemc!ka3ovk!drilex!axiom!linus!mbunix!jcmorris From: jcmorris@mbunix.mitre.org (Joseph C. Morris) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Re: MINIX 1.3 upgrade kit now available from P-H Summary: They delivered it quickly! Keywords: MINIX upgrade Message-ID: <46925@linus.UUCP> Date: 24 Mar 89 20:12:32 GMT References: <2151@ast.cs.vu.nl> <46558@linus.UUCP> Sender: news@linus.UUCP Reply-To: jcmorris@mbunix (Morris) Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA. Lines: 45 On 16 March I called Prentiss-Hall to order the MINIX 1.3 upgrade; for the benefit of others planning to do so I posted to the net a short summary of the critical info (phone number, etc.). I also wondered just how long the P-H people would take to ship the disks, since they were incredibly slow in shipping the original disks and have an abysmal reputation for slow response to orders from bookstores. Yesterday (23 March, exactly one week after I ordered the disks) my post office delivered them to my mailbox. It appears that someone at P-H has managed to fix whatever was causing the agonizing delays which had been plaguing too many P-H customers in the past. I have no idea who that might be, but my thanks to him or her. On the other hand... I've got two potential squawks about the upgrade; one or both may turn out to be misplaced since I've not had a chance to take a deep look at the files: 1. There is no printed documentation with the update package. Aside from the address label and stickers on the diskettes, the only printed material is (1) the shrink-wrap license agreement and (2) a sticker on disk #1 saying that technical questions should be directed to ast@cs.vu.nl (yes, they give the USENET address). There is no information about how to install the updates. (The instructions are in machine-readable form on disk #4, but you have to know enough to mount the disk to MINIX and retrieve the data.) It's not that difficult for somebody with a decent experience level, but it's not something you want a newly-minted novice to have to figure out on his/her own. 2. The shrink-wrap license (which is specifically for MINIX; it's not the usual boiler-plate text) seems to withdraw the permission P-H previously gave for limited redistribution of the MINIX machine readable material. It says something like "you may not transfer ownership of the machine readable material except as provided elsewhere in this agreement", but nowhere in the license does it have a discussion of the conditions which must be met. I haven't checked main to see if they've changed the copyright header in the machine-readable material. I probably won't get a chance to work with the updates for several weeks (minor stuff like tax forms and off-site meetings and such). Does anyone among the bleeding-edge crowd have any experience installing the updates? Joe Morris