Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!xanth!lll-winken!uunet!mcvax!hp4nl!botter!star.cs.vu.nl!ast From: ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Re: MINIX 1.3 upgrade kit now available from P-H Keywords: MINIX upgrade Message-ID: <2233@ast.cs.vu.nl> Date: 31 Mar 89 20:36:16 GMT References: <2151@ast.cs.vu.nl> <46558@linus.UUCP> <46925@linus.UUCP> Reply-To: ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) Organization: VU Informatica, Amsterdam Lines: 29 In article <46925@linus.UUCP> jcmorris@mbunix (Morris) writes: >1. There is no printed documentation with the update package. True. Since this is an upgrade kit, it is presumed you already have MINIX up and running. In that case, all you have to do is mount the disks and see what is on them. There are some READ_ME files in various places too. Basically, the upgrade kit simply contains all the 1.3 sources in full (no cdiffs), plus the binaries of the compiler, patch, and ELLE. >2. The shrink-wrap license (which is specifically for MINIX; it's not the > usual boiler-plate text) seems to withdraw the permission P-H previously > gave for limited redistribution of the MINIX machine readable material. It is macro-driven boiler plate. They put MINIX in as parameter 1 and added my email address near the end so you will bug me and not them. There has been no change in the distribution policy. I don't think their lawyers quite understand what is going on, and based on my limited experience with them so far, I am not planning to explain it to them in the foreseeable future. Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl) P.S. I just received my own set of the upgrade disks today, but I haven't had a chance to open the package yet and see what's in it. It comes in a plain white wrapper instead of the yellow box. Dumb as it may sound, not waiting for the company that manufactures the yellow boxes to produce n boxes saved about a month. Although many hackers think of software as pure intellectual content, with the physical representation being irrelevant, contracting out to get someone to make boxes (different sizes for the 5.25" PC and 3.5" Atari disks), putting stickers on them, doing the shrink wrapping, etc. are all distinct steps, which is why it takes so long between my giving them the disks and their shipping them.