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From: randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.rsts
Subject: Re: Anyone out there?
Summary: comp.os.rsts was kinda slow, eh?
Keywords: rsts
Message-ID: <325@rls.UUCP>
Date: 21 Mar 89 17:30:55 GMT
References: <1245@sagepub.UUCP>
Organization: Moe, Larry, Curly, School of Design
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In message <1245@sagepub.UUCP> David McCune writes;
> I work at a company with a PDP 11/70 running RSTS V. 7.2.
> Is there anyone out there interested in RSTS?  Maybe
> we can get a meaningful discussion going on comp.os.rsts....

I've worked with rsts/e for 7 years.  My teething ring so to speak. 
Since I began mumble years ago, I've been on Vms, Unix, Rsx-11m, and
yecchy Dos.  I am still very fond of Rsts and no matter what the Unix C
programmers (since I'm becoming one) say, Basic-Plus-2 is an acceptable
language.  Since almost all the Rsts utilities were written in Basic
Plus and/or Basic-Plus-2, its better than the uninitiated think.  I
think Dos Basic gave Bp2 a bad name and understandibly so. 

If you're not on Unix or aren't familiar with shells, I feel the Runtime
Systems (rts) of Rsts are akin to the Unix shell.  A major difference
seems to be the Rsts rts images have their own library calls for specific
objects like Rt11, Rsx, Bp2, Basrun, etc, where Unix shells don't.  Unix
uses more unified and global libraries outside the auspices of the
Shell(s).  Unix shells are (I believe), in the Rsx venacular, Command
Language Interpreter(s) or CLI's.  This seems to be at a high level,
like the Vms Dcl or Rsx Mcr CLI's. 

Don't get me wrong, there are significant differences in the way the
CLI's do their job, but I see alot of similarities.  Obviously, theres
lots more to say, but I'll leave that as a discussion exercise. ;-)

I have developed RSTS Systat/s- type of shell scripts, as well as others,
to make Unix systems admin much easier.  In fact, I had to learn Unix by
translating what I read and heard to my native languages. :-(

I believe a discussion *would* be enjoyable.  It might get some
similarities and differences through my thick head.  I like to hear more
without holy wars, just objective info. 

Operating systems jihad?  Uh oh, Iatolla didn't like that ... I'm in
trouble now. 

>                  David McCune, Sage Publications, Inc.
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del *.*/y?

Cheers!

- randy

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