Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!spdcc!dyer From: dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) Newsgroups: comp.periphs Subject: Re: backplane-less computers Keywords: SCSI, Ethernet Message-ID: <2908@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> Date: 31 Mar 89 03:44:05 GMT References: <842@mplvax.EDU> Reply-To: dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) Distribution: usa Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA Lines: 24 In article <842@mplvax.EDU> cdl@mplvax.ucsd.edu.UUCP (Carl Lowenstein) writes: >How can one connect real-world I/O devices to these boxes, when the >device does not happen to be a disk drive, 8mm or 4mm tape, or >terminal? What about more conventional things such as 9-track >magtape, A:D converters, IEEE-488 bus, CAMAC, etc.? You don't. You buy the more expensive versions of their boxes which DO have a backplane. I don't think you will find all machines sold without backplanes, but for those applications which DON'T require the extra expense and complexity of a backplane, it's nice to pass on the cost savings to customers. Your comments about a "backplane server" are interesting, though. Rather than a uVAX-II, you could even use a PC/AT on ethernet. I seem to remember that folks at BBN did this for their multi-media mail even WITH Suns with backplanes. AT cards are cheap and readily available and often less expensive than equivalent VME or Multibus boards. -- Steve Dyer dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer dyer@arktouros.mit.edu