Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!VENERA.ISI.EDU!braden From: braden@VENERA.ISI.EDU Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: FTP "STRU VMS" extension Message-ID: <8903271958.AA02597@braden.isi.edu> Date: 27 Mar 89 19:58:31 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 22 Kenneth, Your original message on this topic triggered a fairly constructive blast of messages (about 35?). I think you should plow ahead with your proposal. A useful approach might be to set up a "Birds-of-a-Feather" session of VMS vendors at a future IETF meeting, to draft a spec. I suggest you leave to the Protocol Czar Jon Postel the decision on syntactic sugar, "STRU xxx" vs. "STRU O xxx" vs. "SITE STRU xxx", etc. Don't waste any more time on it. You (the set of VMS vendors) need to do the hard work, documenting the contents and format for VMS (analogous to Appendix I of RFC-959). It should be noted that STRU P (PAGE structure) is in reality "STRU O TENEX", or "STRU O TOPS20." FTP would have been cleaner as a protocol and more powerful, I think, if we had adopted your idea years ago, and recognized that STRU P was just one example of a class of service that FTP ought to provide -- efficient operating-system-specific transfers. Bob Braden