Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-lcc!lll-winken!uunet!cs.dal.ca!iisat!brains!les_wenninger From: les_wenninger@brains.uucp (Les Wenninger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: re: Who's gonna write the ANTI-VIRUS programs? Message-ID: <4325@brains.uucp> Date: 25 Mar 89 10:47:11 GMT Reply-To: les_wenninger%brains@iisat.uucp Distribution: na Organization: Cerebral Cortex BBS Lines: 55 re: Who's gonna write the ANTI-VIRUS programs?: Bob_BobR_Retell@cup.portal.com describes a list of non-technical end-users (with thoughts that they constitute the ENTIRE computer-using community?), and says, as his "reasons" for withholding info on viruses from we common rabble: > None of this "Virus" information is likely to enable THEM to write their own > protection... indeed, it's hardly likely that it will even REACH them... and > the danger is, they may not even be ABLE to obtain "virus killers", or perhaps > even know they're available. So, just WHO, pray tell, is gonna be allowed the information to WRITE these much-needed "anti-virus" programs, and is he gonna be willing to publicly distribute them through Public Domain software channels? Is this info going to be restricted to the hardware/software developers only? And do you REALLY think they'd CARE to be considered "responsible" for developing anti-virus programs for each new virus, and distributing them rapidly enough that business users may recover their data soon enough to MINIMIZE the disruption of their computer usage? Let's face facts! Hardware & software-producing companies make their money by introducing new, commercially-viable products. If they MUST divert a trained engineer or programmer to other duties, such as answering technical questions on the 'phone, or performing "public services", such as writing anti-virus programs, then that TAKES AWAY from the potential profit that company can make. As a result, commercial hardware/software manufacturers DO NOT want to take responsibility for writing "anti-virus" programs. Let's also look at the teacher/business-oriented end-user of computers: are they going to WANT to shell out the cash (at anywhere from $50-$100 per copy) to BUY a new program, every few months, just so they can keep their files intact? The independent "hacker", writing programs during his spare time, and distributing them freely through Public-Domain channels now becomes an important "link in a software "food-chain", as it were"; he produces the various utilities (such as anti-virus programs) which commercial companies haven't THOUGHT of introducing, because they don't USE computers in the same way, toward the same goals, as the "common rabble on the street". What you're proposing, Bob, is that the information required to write anti-virus programs be restricted to people who can PAY to use it -- business users who have a LOT of cash tied up in their computer usage, and who can afford to pay programmers to write SPECIFIC utilities (including anti-virus programs) for their sole use. This leaves an AWFUL LOT of us common computer users out in the cold, frustrated with our thrashed data files, and effectively putting computer usage BACK into the "ivory tower" environment that numerous "hackers" have worked so long to eliminate, when they first dreamt that they could bring computers down to the price, size, and useability that was NEEDED by people. What you're proposing, Bob, is a rather Faschist form of counter-evolution, and I don't think many people would APPRECIATE it occurring. -- ============================================================================= From Les Wenninger logged in at Cerebral Cortex BBS System (902)462-7245 8N1 24h/7d {uunet, utai, watmath}!dalcs!iisat!brains!les_wenninger =============================================================================