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From: hermit@ssyx.ucsc.edu (William R. Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Commodore-64/Commodore-128 Kermit
Summary: Sorry to take up space, but...
Keywords: kermit vs. 1660 kludge
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Date: 18 Mar 89 02:07:47 GMT
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[I tried to mail this, but it boinged back in my face, so....]

Re your 1660 vs. Kermit struggle...

This is just a hairbrained idea, and a kludge at best, but it might be worth
a shot: First, in BASIC, take the modem off-hook:

	POKE 56579,(PEEK(56579)OR 32)
	POKE 56577,(PEEK(56577)AND 223)

To avoid trouble with the phone company giving up on you, do this with the
LINE phone jack unplugged.  The modem should silently tell you all about the
silence it's getting (the non-dial tone).

Boot Kermit (LOAD "*",8,1 or BOOT for 128).  When you get to the Kermit-65>
menu, go into connect mode, then pick up a real phone, connect the modem's
LINE jack, and hope to hear the dial tone.  Dial using a real phone, and the
modem *should* connect OK.  When you log off of that service (or you can
disconnect the LINE jack to lose carrier, the modem *should* stay off-hook,
letting you repeat the dialing process.

Not having a 1660 handy to try it with, I can't say how well it would work.
I can, though, tell you that it's likely to if Kermit doesn't force the modem
to hang up in the bootup process.

Now that I think about it, the computer should start out in 64 mode if you
have a 128.  80 columns should still work.  Switching from 128-64 modes,
as the bootstrap does, is likely to reset the modem.

Good luck, and let me know how well it works.
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