Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!lll-winken!ncis.llnl.gov!helios.ee.lbl.gov!ucsd!rutgers!bellcore!faline!thumper!ulysses!att!alberta!ubc-cs!fornax!mcdonald From: mcdonald@fornax.UUCP (Ken Mcdonald) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: '030 daughterboard possible? Message-ID: <933@fornax.UUCP> Date: 21 Mar 89 23:50:57 GMT Distribution: na Organization: School of Computing Science, SFU, Burnaby, B.C. Canada Lines: 21 There is a current wave of Apple price/upgrade bashing going on the net, started by a posting put out by me complaining about the hight upgrade cost of II->IIx. I still stand by this complaint, but would like to make one further note, and ask another question. One of the biggest disappointments to me in terms of Apple's upgrade behaviour concerning the Mac II was the implicit soft shoe routine they pulled by putting a PMMU socket on the Mac II board, and then never releasing a Mac II with a PMMU, but instead going to the '030 WITHOUT PROVIDING A SIMPLE DAUGHTERBOARD EXPANSION to retrofit an '030 to the Mac II. I can't see any technical reason it can't be done, it would give you essentially a IIx (call it a IIx/2?) at a far lower price than a motherboard swap, and it wouldn't cost anymore than buying a PMMU for the II. The advantages are that you sidestep any weird campatability problems arising from the differences in the PMMU's, and you don't have the penalty of an extra wait state. Of course, if there are technical reasons why a daughterboard like this can't be produced (which is my question, natch--is this feasible), then flame on. Otherwise, flame Apple. As usual, please disregard the typos--I'm just too lazy to fix them. Ken McDonald