Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!blake!gwangung
From: gwangung@blake.acs.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Sun-Macintosh emulator
Summary: How about the Atari ST?
Message-ID: <1301@blake.acs.washington.edu>
Date: 23 Mar 89 18:01:38 GMT
References: <27619@apple.Apple.COM> <12124@reed.UUCP> <27749@apple.Apple.COM>
Reply-To: gwangung@blake.acs.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <27749@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>Most software gets around this by licensing it to you rather than selling it
>to you (the famous "license to use on one system and make copies for
>archival purpose only" clause...). The ROM? I honestly don't know. However,

	I know of several sources of Mac ROMS...However, thearey are only
for 64Ks and 128 per agreeements with Apple.


>So at the very least, if you wanted to buy a clone, you'd have to buy a Mac
>to be legal. Then you could, potentially, run both of them off the single

	Only for the 256K ROMs.

>But this is somewhat of a moot point, because you also have to have the
>System Software (system, finder, et al) -- and that, I think you'll find, is
>under a licensing agreement. Without both, unless those folks want to
>re-implement all of the software, it wouldn't do much good.

	Hmmmm.....Atari ST owners under Mac emulation seem to get these
things legally.o

>It'd also be interesting to see if Apple's lawyers would allow a company to
>sell a clone sans ROMs. A good case could be made for an intent to violate
>the copyrights, which would be an interesting legal case (actually, there ar
>precedents: a person caught with drug paraphernalia like bongs is considered
>to be showing intent to break drug laws -- arguing that the bong is just a
>cute flower vase isn't likely to do much good)

	Actually, they do allow Gadgets by Small to sell the Spectre 128
for Atari STs.  This is an emulator, sans ROMs, that allows the ST to
run like a Mac, making use of either the 64K or 128K ROMs.  Perfectly
legal, since Small checked it out ahead of time with Apple.  He just can't
market a device that makes use of current ROMs.