Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!caen.engin.umich.edu!sol.engin.umich.edu!mystone From: mystone@sol.engin.umich.edu (Dean Yu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: 16Mhz why in the world.... Message-ID: <42340b22.a590@mag.engin.umich.edu> Date: 23 Mar 89 23:13:00 GMT References: <430095@hpcea.CE.HP.COM> Sender: netnews@caen.engin.umich.edu Reply-To: mystone@sol.engin.umich.edu (Dean Yu) Organization: Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Michigan Lines: 47 Sender: Followup-To: In article <430095@hpcea.CE.HP.COM> twakeman@hpcea.CE.HP.COM (Teriann Wakeman) writes: >Anyone know why Apple is bothering with 16Meg 68030s????????? >The result is essentually a MacII with a cheaper upgrade path. All the timing >comparisons I have seen show Mac SE/30 / IIx / IIcx to be in the same speed >league as the Mac II. > > [.....] > >Why in the world didn't the SE/30 & IIcx come out with 33Mhz 68030s?????? >What about a second processor to handle the screen?? Third party >manufacturers seem to be able to build 33Mhz 68030 accellerator boards that >work with the newer Macs using Mac software. Why does Apple's R&D hesitate >where companies with comparitively pico R&D budgets can do it????? > From what I understand, there are a few reasons why Apple hasn't gone with a faster clock rate. - Faster clock rates require faster RAM memory. And the price of of are ungodly. If people are complaining about Apple's prices now, think of how much they would charge for a machine with <100ns memory chips. - The circuit boards in the current Macs aren't capable of handling the increased speed. I'm not an hardware expert, so I don't know why this is so, and how the 3rd party accelerators work, but I'm led to believe that it would require a complete redesign of the logic board to support at faster processor. - Upgrades. If the second reason is true, then Apple wouldn't be able to offer upgrades (II -> IIx and SE -> SE/30). Apple didn't offer an upgrade for the Plus to the SE because they redesigned the logic board to get that 10 to 15% speed increase. I suppose that if they came out with a Mac IIex or whatever that ran at 33Mhz, they wouldn't give you an upgrade option either. _______________________________________________________________________________ Dean Yu | E-mail: mystone@{sol,caen}.engin.umich.edu University of Michigan | Real-mail: Dean Yu Computer Aided Engineering Network | 2413 Kelsey House ===================================| 600 E Madison "These are MY opinions." (My | Ann Arbor, MI 48109 employer doesn't want them. |=========================================== Actually, they don't really care | what I think. But President | This space intentionally left blank. Duderstadt does...) | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------