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From: earleh@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Earle R. Horton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: How do I get Discipline?
Summary: Yeah, where?
Message-ID: <12719@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU>
Date: 21 Mar 89 18:33:02 GMT
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In article <89Mar20.184214est.11025@ephemeral.ai.toronto.edu> 
	dudek@ai.toronto.edu (Gregory Dudek) writes:
...
>  The 6.1 version of MacsBug I have refers to Discipline in its on-line
>help.  I've always assumed in was TMON's it was referring to (which doesn't
>really make sense since why would I be in Macsbug anyhow).

     Exactly.  The on-line help implies that one can load Discipline
in such a fashion that it will work with Macsbug.  The question is:
Where to get such a beast?
>
>  For those of us who aren't ADPA members, would somebody care to inform us
>what  "RAMDump" and "ReAnimator" are?
>
     I read about these in Mac-something-or-other a few months back.
Apparently, these allow one to run a program, then dump the machine
state to a floppy.  ReAnimator apparently allows you to look at the
saved state later, something like using adb to look at a core file in
UNIX.  I suppose you give your beta-testers RAMDUmp along with the
beta-version of your program, and then they send you back core files
to look at.  I wonder how severe a crash can occur, and the RAM-dumper
still function?

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