Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!ncar!boulder!tramp!ewing From: ewing@tramp.Colorado.EDU (EWING DAVID JAMES) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Prototyper Summary: 2.0 better but not perfect Keywords: prototyper mac programming Message-ID: <7618@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Date: 22 Mar 89 19:21:05 GMT References: <67@sppy00.UUCP> <169@indri.primate.wisc.edu> <3955@ece-csc.UUCP> <28672@sri-unix.SRI.COM> <13892@duke.cs.duke.edu> <7540@boulder.Colorado.EDU> <9641@burdvax.PRC.Unisys.COM> <1041@Portia.Stanford.EDU> <28495@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <9136@claris.com> Sender: news@boulder.Colorado.EDU Reply-To: ewing@tramp.Colorado.EDU (EWING DAVID JAMES) Distribution: na Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 31 True, Prototype 2.0 is vastly improved, but it isn't complete (and may never be). First, it contains as many bugs as version 1.0. However SmethersBarnes has decided that they will fix them. Registered users can get a free update by calling there tech. support line. I know this update is coming because I am currently testing a prerelease version of it (and I haven't crashed it yet). The basic problems I have with Prototyper is its basic purpose (implied by its name). It is best for prototyping applications, not building real ones. There is no easy way of adding new user I/F features after you have already generated code and modified it for your own purposes. You have go in and make all your changes again every time you generate new code. SmethersBarnes says they will probably fix this by calling routines that you supply instead of having you insert code directly into the files that it generates. However, this won't be in the next update. It needs to support scrolling views inside of windows. Either text or graphical. It allows windows to be prototyped which look like they should work, but they don't. Also, it doesn't support MacApp. Although I don't use MacApp, I would consider it if Prototyper supported it. Basically I'm sick of writting the same code over and over again, and the combination of Prototyper and an object-oriented language would be perfect ;-). Minor problems include: Its support of hierarchical menus is icky (for lack of a better term). Scrolling lists need to be filled with arbitrary information of arbitrary lengths. Oh well. That's enough for now. -dave-