Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-winken!uunet!steinmetz!crdgw1!crdgw1.ge.com!barnett From: barnett@crdgw1.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix Subject: Re: mail11v3 Keywords: &^%$!! undocumented mail11 software Message-ID: <84@crdgw1.crd.ge.com> Date: 29 Mar 89 17:18:30 GMT References: <4899@hubcap.clemson.edu> Sender: news@crdgw1.crd.ge.com Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY Lines: 43 In-reply-to: hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Marshall) In article <4899@hubcap.clemson.edu>, hubcap@hubcap (Mike Marshall) writes: >I believe I have determined that you can't use /usr/bin/mail11v3 without >using DEC's sendmail. Therer are some special flags that are undocumented that DEC has added. Look closely at the options to the TCP mailers and the headers. >To make matters worse, DEC has absolutely broken the mail11-daemon that >is part of DECnet/ULTRIX... it used to deliver DECnet/Internet addresses >to the DECnet/Internet host looking like gateway::user@place > now the addresses look like gateway::"user@place" > | >Try getting sendmail to parse a quoted string! ---------+ I tried to add the double quote character to the operator list, and Ultrix sendmail didn't even look at it. If I could have quotes, I could modify sendmail.cf to fix it myself. I think we are using the old version of mail11. The sendmail file we got with 3.0 was garbage. I had to trash 90% of it. Sun provides 2 or 3 sendmail.cf files. AT least they understand that not all systems are the same. Dec tried to put every option in one file, and it is really too much. I also don't know why they didn't convert an address like abc::address into something close to RFC822, i.e. <@abc.decnet>:address Also, if you have an error like R$+ $@$2 you don't get the error until you execute the ruleset. SunOS sendmail reports the error when it starts up. My test suite didn't note this because the error was going to stdout, and I didn't see the error when I installed it. Did anyone get any documentation with the 3.0 sendmail? There are a lot of differences, which I had to figure out by reverse engineering. I am not impressed. -- Bruce G. Barnett a.k.a. uunet!steinmetz!barnett,