Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!pprg.unm.edu!hc!lll-winken!uunet!mcvax!ukc!etive!lfcs!jha From: jha@lfcs.ed.ac.uk (Jamie Andrews) Newsgroups: news.misc,news.admin Subject: Re: Expansion of rec.humor.funny to other networks Keywords: herrings, red Message-ID: <1605@etive.ed.ac.uk> Date: 21 Mar 89 11:05:14 GMT References: <439@corpane.UUCP> <3100@ddsw1.MCS.COM> <9773@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <19926@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> <1989Mar16.165623.20831@utzoo.uucp> Sender: news@etive.ed.ac.uk Reply-To: jha@lfcs.ed.ac.uk (Jamie Andrews) Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U Lines: 23 Xref: utzoo news.misc:2752 news.admin:5206 In article <1989Mar16.165623.20831@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: >Freedom of speech means nothing if it's only the freedom to speak "clean", >"pure" words, where somebody else defines what is clean and pure. It has >to include the right to be obnoxious and offensive. No one's trying to deprive people of the right to be obnoxious and offensive, Henry, otherwise you would have been kicked off the net long ago ((-: badaboom :-)) But seriously folks, why do some people think the only choices are absolute freedom of speech or total fascistic censorship? The law has always been dependent on juries and judges to decide matters of interpretation. If you're worried about "who will decide", you might as well free all people convicted because of the decision of a jury. Let's decide individual cases individually, as we've been doing all along in real life and on Usenet. Absolute freedom of speech is a RED HERRING. --Jamie. jha@lfcs.ed.ac.uk "Look at this tangle of thorns"