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From: jeffd@ficc.uu.net (jeff daiell)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Racist Jokes
Summary: How cute!
Message-ID: <3524@ficc.uu.net>
Date: 23 Mar 89 13:10:33 GMT
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In article <77278RWC102@PSUVM>, RWC102@PSUVM (R. W. F. Clark) writes:
> 
> Do you have a goddamn brain?
                ^^^^^^^

On top of everything else, you have to invite a theological dispute?

> 
> Supporting the free dissemination of humor of any sort
> is _not_, en oh tee, NOT, not in any way agreeing with
> the stereotypes involved.  Not that I'd expect a moron
> of a yvoregnevna like you to be able to understand
> this, but one does not have to agree with the
> semantic content of a joke to find it funny.

The issue was not "Supporting the free dissemination" ...
if you read my postings, you'll see that I have consistently
attacked censorship, including censorship of racist humor.


> 
> Goddamn idiots like you tried to censor Lenny Bruce.
> [Note:  I'm not saying that YOU have tried to censor
> Lenny Bruce.  Just goddamn idiots LIKE you.]
> 
> Your brand of freedom seems to be freedom to do what
> Jeff Daiell finds acceptable, freedom to say what Jeff
> Daiell finds acceptable, freedom to agree with Jeff
> Daiell's Weltanschauung.

Uh, are you saying that criticism = censorship?  That
my expressing dismay over racist humor is the same as
trying to suppress it?  In that case ... what would you
call *your* distempered comments, amigo?


> 
> Every time I think of so-called liberals like you, I
> want to throw up again and again and again.

You're cute.  But wrong.  While certainly a liberal in the
*original* sense of the word, I doubt that I have too much
in common with the Mondales and Simons of the world.

> 
> Your idiocy on the net is unparalleled.

Do you *really* want me to respond to this straight line?

>  Go away.

What?  Censorship?
> 
> Why not just ruin a few more public mailing lists while
> you're at it?

Uh, which ones have I ruined, and how?


Let me repeat: I have *never* supported attempts to suppress
racist humor.  I demand the right to criticize it, however,
silly people like R. W. F. Clark to the contrary notwithstanding.

Fair enough?

Para un Tejas Libre,

Jeff Daiell

-- 
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                 -- Mark Twain