Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-winken!uunet!cdin-1!fred From: fred@cdin-1.UUCP (Fred Rump) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: Expansion of rec.humor.funny to other networks Message-ID: <131@cdin-1.UUCP> Date: 23 Mar 89 20:43:43 GMT References: <439@corpane.UUCP> <3100@ddsw1.MCS.COM> <9773@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <784@twwells.uucp> <3459@ficc.uu.net> <16116@cup.portal.com> Reply-To: fred@cdin-1.UUCP (Fred Rump) Organization: CompuData, Incorporated, Philadelphia, PA Lines: 49 Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Keywords: In article <16116@cup.portal.com> Zap@cup.portal.com (Tim Philip Cadell) writes: >}In article <784@twwells.uucp>, bill@twwells.uucp (T. William Wells) writes: >}> }> >}> Let me put it this way. I am Jewish enough that Hitler would have sent >}> me to a concentration camp. (My mother was born Jewish; >} >}You *can't* be "born Jewish", any more than you can be "born Presbyterian". >}You can be born to persons who believe in Judaism; that doesn't make >}you Jewish. > >Can you be born Polish? Could Polish jokes offend you then? Being Jewish >is partly religious, but largely based on ancestry. Ok, many jews have a genetic connection to a common ancestry. Semetic features very similar to arabic and other middle eastern types are often evident and the butt of offensive racial cartoons. But essentially the tie that binds is the religion. It has stood the test of time and made Jews 'different' thru modern and ancient history. National Socialism used this religious 'qualification' for its policies but spouted racial differnces as if they were such things. What they forgot was that the pure German (Arian) people were about as mongrol as they come and that the purest of Germans were really the English. To base anything on the policies of the 3rd Reich would seem to be placing oneself on a par with idiocy. >}If you're wife is now an atheist, she is *not* Jewish. You can't be >}a Jewish atheist anymore than you can be a Baptist atheist. > > wrong answer! Baptist does not include ancestry. Well, here we go again. How many children of jewish or mixed parentage had children who don't even know that somewhere in the past their ancestors were jewish (adhered to the jewish faith)? Why is there this great fear that jewishness will die out with intermarriage into other religions or loss of faith? Because there is no pure race or pure nationality except by adoption, I agree that a jewish atheist makes about as much sense as calling someone a Baptist atheist. fred rump -- Fred Rump, Pres. | UUCP: {rutgers,cbmvax,bellcore}!bpa!cdin-1!fred CompuData, Inc. | or ...{allegra killer gatech!uflorida decvax!ucf-cs} 10501 Drummond Rd. | !ki4pv!cdis-1!cdin-1!fred Philadelphia, Pa. 19154| or ...!uunet!cdin-1!fred or fred@cdin-1.uu.net