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From: peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva)
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Subject: Re: Votes with many NO votes (Re: Proposed OFFICIAL Newsgroup Creation/Deletion Guidelines)
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Date: 26 Mar 89 13:51:55 GMT
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I said, but the attribution was lost:

> >How about using the rule of 100: any vote with over 100 NO votes, regardless
> >of the number of YES votes, obviously has a lot of opposition and should not
> >be created.

In article <27812@apple.Apple.COM>, chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
> No, because it's too easy to build up power blocks to beat any arbitrary
> number.

That hasn't been the experience in the past. Surely it would be easy enough to
drum up the 20 or 30 votes needed to kill some of the recent votes if that was
the case.

> The idea is not to see if someone can build up a special interest
> group of a given size, but whether there is enough interest to warrant the
> group (and not enough anti-interest to consider it a bad idea).

If someone can summon up 100 people to vote against a group, there is enough
anti-interest to consider it a bad idea. ANY group that has any great amount
of controversy is probably going to ba a bad net.partner anyway.

> o Any vote that has fewer than 150 valid votes fails for lack of interest.

Like comp.unix.i386? It wasn't flamed about enough to get the talk.bizzare
folks involved, I guess. It's certainly proving its usefulness. You need
to allow for relatively non-controversial votes on needed groups.

> o A vote requires 67% of all valid votes...

Even with 400 for and 200 against? I submit that such a group would be a
flame-fest before long.

> o If the number of 'spoiled' or provably missing votes is > 1% of the total..

You trust the mailers that much?
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