Xref: utzoo news.groups:8580 news.admin:5336 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!oliveb!pyramid!nsc!icldata!altnet!altos86!dtynan From: dtynan@altos86.UUCP (Dermot Tynan) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.admin Subject: Re: Proposed OFFICIAL Newsgroup Creation/Deletion Guidelines Message-ID: <885@altos86.UUCP> Date: 29 Mar 89 06:20:12 GMT References: <1634@ncar.ucar.edu> Reply-To: dtynan@altos86.UUCP (Dermot Tynan) Organization: Altos Computer Systems, San Jose, CA Lines: 31 In article <1634@ncar.ucar.edu> woods@ncar.UCAR.EDU (Greg Woods) writes: > > RULES FOR DELETING A USENET GROUP > >I propose that the procedure be the same as for group creation, with >100 more keep than delete votes required to save the group, with the exception >that all calls for votes and discussions MUST be cross-posted to both >news.groups and the group in question. This will obviously only work for This is incorrect. The 'burden of proof' so to speak, is on the people who want the group *removed*. In reality, the only valid groups to come up for 'rmgroup'ing, will be those which are not special-purpose (such as n.a.important) or those which have very low activity (in which case, it is easy to obtain a 100-vote delete margin). If it's possible to 'rmgroup' without the 100-vote margin, then people will rely on apathy to rmgroup certain groups which are indeed active and legit. On the other hand, a margin in favor of deleting shows strong interest in seeing the group go, and the disk-space (?) freed. As for moderated groups, the same rules should apply. If the DECWRL neilsons show that the group is being read, and the moderator has no problem getting contributions, then why remove it? In fact, can we now stop the chatter about r.h.f, and assume that those who feel betrayed by the 'commercialism' will refrain from posting to the group, and those that do contribute will realise their material (which is rarely original to begin with!) may pass on to other sources, perhaps for monetary gain. Either that, or we create a news.gibberish! - Der -- Return Path: dtynan@altos86.UUCP {..!pyramid!altos86!dtynan} Or use: dtynan@zorba.Tynan.COM -+-+-+- May the blessings of Jeyes Fluid fall upon you -+-+-+-