Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!amdahl!pacbell!att!mcdchg!ddsw1!karl From: karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: Scrap the current NG creation procedure, invent a new one Summary: I doubt you'll get a consensus on this; 5 people is far too few to be representative of the net's wishes as a whole. Message-ID: <3196@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Date: 29 Mar 89 17:03:11 GMT References: <3010@looking.UUCP> <3011@looking.UUCP> Reply-To: karl@ddsw1.UUCP (Karl Denninger) Organization: Macro Computer Solutions, Inc., Mundelein, IL Lines: 31 In article <3011@looking.UUCP> brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) writes: >In the previous article, I described how I feel the current system misses >the whole mark, and how I think we need a new one. Here's one. It's >just a proposal. > >Remember, what we want is a way for sysadmins to decide what groups to >carry. That's the ultimate decision making process of usenet, and any >guidelines must be based on that. No, it's just the tip of the iceberg. There are many other issues that need to be resolved with regards to the net. Your "unlab" proposal seems to be a seed for controversy, not a way to get a consensus from the net administrators. I'm brewing a slightly different idea; one which has the "voice of the net" assigned to those who have to answer for the actions that are taken. Specifically, this refers to the administrators of net sites -- those who have to either (1) pay the bills for keeping the net going, or (2) have to answer (either formally or informally) to those who do pay the bills. Once I've got something a little more concrete (what's up in the head right now is too shaky to propose formally, or to take to the net for comment) I'll post it. Suffice it to say that it's being discussed among a small group of people at present, and being refined into something that may be workable. -- Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, !ddsw1!karl) Public Access Data Line: [+1 312 566-8911], Voice: [+1 312 566-8910] Macro Computer Solutions, Inc.