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From: jthomp@texsun.Central.Sun.COM (Jim Thompson  Sun Dallas IR)
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Subject: Re: Latest Version of Notes?
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Date: 29 Mar 89 21:42:18 GMT
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In article <18218@gatech.edu> shilling@pinto.UUCP (John Shilling) writes:
>Notes was written by a fellow named Ray Essick.  I recently asked him
>about it and he said that you should be able to FTP a copy from 
>a.cs.uiuc.edu (look in /pub/Notes/).  There should be compressed and
>uncompressed versions of the tar image. 

Notes was originally written by Rob Kolstad and Ray Essick, and
pre-dates 'news' as a bbs-type system.  Ray Essick is now with Prisma.
(essick@prisma.com, or uunet!prisma!essick), as is Rob.
(kolstad@prisma.com).

Notes is also available in the comp.software.unix archives.   
uunet.uu.net:~ftp/news/Notes.tar.Z 

pick up

uunet.uu.net:~ftp/comp.sources.unix/volume10/notes-mod.pch.Z

While you're there.

>Rumor has it that there are some folks at HP doing work with
>notesfiles. They have done a lot of "newsifying" to the code to make
>it a better usenet citizen.  Other than that I don't think that there
>is anyone updating/enhancing it (Ray has long since graduated).

Rich Salz (rsalz@pineapple.bbn.com) has also done quite a bit of work
on 'notes'.  The HP guys are doing some work as well.  Whilst at
Convex, we did some work to support an internal version that was used
to record revisions control information, amoung other things.

Private conversations with Ray tend to make me belive that at this
point, even Ray would like a notes-like interface to news.  If only to
avoid the notes<->news gateway issues.  I understand that Larry Wall's
as-yet-unreleased version of 'rn' will support such 'alternative'
interfaces.  (That is a rumor, 2nd hand..)

I won't express my opinion of notes, but my refusal to work on/with it
cost me job offer once.  Suffice it to say that I prefer news.

Jim Thompson					 	jthomp@central.sun.com
"I woudn't recommend sex, drugs, or insanity 	 	Network Engineering
for everyone, but they've always worked for me."	Sun Microsystems
			-- Hunter S. Thompson