Path: utzoo!yunexus!ists!mike From: mike@ists.ists.ca (Mike Clarkson) Newsgroups: ont.general Subject: Re: Connecting to the Internet Message-ID: <370@ists.ists.ca> Date: 30 Mar 89 00:48:29 GMT Article-I.D.: ists.370 References: <221@moegate.UUCP> <295@torsqnt.UUCP> Distribution: ont Organization: Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science Lines: 48 In article <295@torsqnt.UUCP>, david@torsqnt.UUCP (David Haynes) writes: > In article <221@moegate.UUCP> soley@moegate.UUCP (Norman S. Soley) writes: > >OK, I'll show my ignorance. How would a psuedo-commercial orgainization > >in Ontario (like for instance MOE) go about establishing an IP connection > >to the Internet? > >-- > >Norman Soley - The Communications Guy - Ontario Ministry of the Environment > 1. You need to purchase a data router. The box of choice seems to be > made by Cisco. (Does anyone have a TO reference for these?) Correct, except that this weeks price is closer to 20k$. (No :-) The alternate box is a Proteon. > 2. There seemed to be talk of a connection fee of about $15K. The router is the connection fee. > 3. There was also a yearly fee mentioned of about $15K. Correct again. This is the annual fee to pay for line charges and spare parts. > 4. All this was set in jello when I was asking -- Toronto, Waterloo > and Western were just getting their act together then. Western, Waterloo, Guelph, MacMaster, UofT, York, Queens, ISTS, ITRC are all in various stages of coming on. Ottawa is likely to join soon. > 5. I assume that point 1. would also imply the need for a fast data > line. I know that the links are at 19,200, but are voice-grade > lines sufficient? No. The requirement is for Routers at each end, hence sync data lines. 9600 is the minimum, and 56k is the next step that Bell offers in the city, if it offers it at all (ie not in Markham). 19.2 is available and used long-distance. ONET is most assuredly open to commercial members. If your organization has the interest (and the money :-), contact Peter Marshall, peter@julian.uwo.ca -- Mike Clarkson mike@ists.UUCP Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science mike@ists.ists.ca York University, North York, Ontario, uunet!mnetor!yunexus!ists!mike CANADA M3J 1P3 +1 (416) 736-5611