Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wasatch!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!maniac%garnet.Berkeley.EDU@ From: maniac%garnet.Berkeley.EDU@ (George W. Herbert) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: F-111 Summary: I like it, too... Message-ID: <5271@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 31 Mar 89 01:52:39 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 17 Approved: military@att.att.com From: maniac%garnet.Berkeley.EDU@ (George W. Herbert) Just to make it clear, I didn't (and as far as i could tell nobody else did) mean to complain about the F-111{A,(C),D,E,F}. They are all fine planes, very capable, and are still (~20yrs later) at or very near the top of the heap for strike planes. We all were bickering over the sensibility or lack thereof of the F-111B (or, what can we do wrong in the name of 'effeciency of design cost' to paraphrase those who criticize ex defense secretary Macnamara.) Of course, there are ways of doing it better... but that's another story. An upengined Tornado would be neat, though they won't and can't due to design (what i mean is boosting it into 111's thrust class...) george william herbert maniac@garnet.berkeley.edu