Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!mtdca.uucp!royc From: royc@mtdca.UUCP (Roy A. Crabtree) Newsgroups: sci.nanotech Subject: Re: How big is a brain? Summary: Too small. The SOul may be a dynamic along Axon Catastrophe manifolds... Keywords: upload imortal Message-ID: <8903240504.AA22976@athos.rutgers.edu> Date: 11 Mar 89 22:17:03 GMT References: <8903100502.AA24611@athos.rutgers.edu> Sender: nanotech@aramis.rutgers.edu Organization: AT&T Lines: 39 Approved: nanotech@aramis.rutgers.edu In article <8903100502.AA24611@athos.rutgers.edu>, bpendlet@esunix.UUCP (Bob Pendleton) writes: > > After spending a frustrating evening with my Britanica I still haven't > found out just how much storage, how many instructions/second, how > many simulated nuerons, or what ever, are needed to simulate the > function of a human brain. (chuckle): If Turing didn't know, who are we? > Just what are the design parameters for a machine that would be needed > to upload a human mind? What about the simulated environment you need to > be able to walk around in and interact with other uploaded minds? [elided] > How do we know this is an upload and not a download :-) Maybe (:-(*)) by _unloading_ and waiting for a _reboot_ Or perhaps we are already VMing around now! {SO what's term, JoSH, for a virtual machine environment hoisting above its parent, and assuming control? Partstoob esrever? } > -- > Bob Pendleton, speaking only for myself. > UUCP Address: decwrl!esunix!bpendlet or utah-cs!esunix!bpendlet > > [You'll find many of the best guesses in one place in Moravec's Mind Children. > He figures 10 teraops cpu and 10 terabytes memory, but I'm vastly oversimplifying, > read the book. (He also figures to operate in the real world, not simulated, > by means of robotic bodies.) > --JoSH] I still think that's too small; a good simulation, but lacking essence. (I believe I will live to see it in my hands, within 20 years). roy a. crabtree att!mtdca!royc 201-957-6033 [Esroh najort. --JoSH]