Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!pprg.unm.edu!hc!lll-winken!uunet!mcvax!ukc!strath-cs!glasgow!gilbert From: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Where might CR understanding come from (if it exists) Message-ID: <2721@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> Date: 4 Apr 89 11:24:14 GMT References: <2705@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <3633@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Organization: Comp Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland Lines: 27 In article <3633@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) writes: >From article <2705@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk>, by gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton): >" ... As 'mind' was not designed, and not by us more >" importantly, it is not fully understood for any of its activities >" ('brains' are of course, e.g. sleep regulation). Hence we cannot yet >" build an equivalent artefact until we understand it. ... > >It doesn't follow. Think of a diamond, for instance. > Category mistake. Diamonds are a) concrete b) 'assayable' - i.e. you can test chemically that X is indeed a diamond c) synthesisable by following well-understood chemical theories Minds are a) abstract b) not 'assayable' - what the word covers is vague. c) not provably sythesisable becuase of (b) no test for mindhood, and also no theory of how minds get made and function I am still thinking of a diamond however. I cannot think of a mind. -- Gilbert Cockton, Department of Computing Science, The University, Glasgow gilbert@uk.ac.glasgow.cs !ukc!glasgow!gilbert