Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!hc!pprg.unm.edu!unmvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!apple!vsi1!wyse!mips!prls!philabs!linus!mbunix!bwk From: bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry W. Kort) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Thinking about the reduction of Entropy. Summary: Seeing around the next bend. Keywords: Heat Death and Light Life. Message-ID: <48428@linus.UUCP> Date: 9 Apr 89 15:05:04 GMT References: <550002@hpfelg.HP.COM> <8300034@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu> <47325@linus.UUCP> <838@uceng.UC.EDU> Sender: news@linus.UUCP Reply-To: bwk@mbunix (Barry Kort) Organization: IdeaSync, Inc., Chronos, VT Lines: 22 In article <47325@linus.UUCP>, bwk@mbunix.mitre.org I wrote: > > I just don't understand why an intelligent species would consciously > > take self-destruction as a goal. To which Dan Mocsny (dmocsny@uceng.UC.EDU) responds in article <838@uceng.UC.EDU>: > For societies, self-destruction is not a goal at all. Instead, > it is an emergent property resulting from a collection of entities > each trying to maximize its claim on available resources while > minimizing its personal effort. Designing complex nonlinear systems > to have arbitrary pre-specified emergent properties is quite beyond > the state of current engineering (see the papers of Steven Wolfram). Ah, then it is our collective ignorance which leads us to steam off in the direction of disaster. I understand that. Perhaps if we took turns standing on each other's shoulders, we could see a little further beyond the horizon. --Barry