Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!iuvax!bsu-cs!neubauer From: neubauer@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Paul Neubauer) Newsgroups: comp.editors Subject: Re: why do editors "shrink-wrap" the text? Message-ID: <6579@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> Date: 6 Apr 89 15:08:43 GMT References: <10088@megaron.arizona.edu> <11542@lanl.gov> Reply-To: neubauer@bsu-cs.UUCP (Paul Neubauer) Distribution: na Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana Lines: 39 In article <11542@lanl.gov> jlg@lanl.gov (Jim Giles) writes: >From article <10088@megaron.arizona.edu>, by mike@arizona.edu (Mike Coffin): >> Yes. (Any question of the form "does gnuemacs have ..." has the >> answer "yes" ;-) Try picture-mode. You can even change the default > >I'm not sure your parenthetical is true. I want an editor in which the >carriage return key is _only_ a cursor positioning key. No matter what >'mode' the editor is in, I want the carriage control key to put the >cursor at the beginning of the next line - and _most_especially_NOT_ >insert a new line or split the line I was on! In other words, I want >the carriage control key to behave exactly as it does on a dumb mechanical >typewriter (even in 'insert mode'). Does gnuemacs do that (without me >having to rewrite the keyboard driver or assign a macro to the carriage >return key or something)? Sure you can do that easily. The point that many posters have made here recently is that an editor is a VERY personal tool. You want the return key to have a particular behavior. I find that particular behavior very irritating when I encounter it. I therefore want an editor that I can (without unreasonable effort) customize to my own preferences. Rebinding the return key is no big deal. Why do you seem to assume that GNU Emacs ought to conform to your preferences by default? My observation is that comparatively few people happen to want that return key behavior. I could very well be wrong and if I am, then there is almost certainly someone around who has exactly what you want and can send it to you, and if I am right, then you may have to do it yourself. (Which should not be more than a couple of lines added to your .emacs file.) One of the characteristic features of Emacs is precisely the fact that not only can it be customized, but its philosophy actively encourages you to customize it to suit yourself. Emacs is not alone in this, but it (and RMS) are certainly up toward the head of the pack. I admit that LISP is rather more different from the languages that most people use than TPU, for example, but so what? If you want to use it you will. Please don't anybody flame RMS for doing the service he has just because you would rather he had done something differently. No two people seem to really agree on everything anyway. -- Paul Neubauer neubauer@bsu-cs.bsu.edu neubauer@bsu-cs.UUCP !{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!neubauer