Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!decwrl!megatest!djones From: djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: "Expertise" Message-ID: <3261@goofy.megatest.UUCP> Date: 4 Apr 89 22:19:57 GMT References: <18764@joyce.istc.sri.com> Distribution: usa Organization: Megatest Corporation, San Jose, Ca Lines: 56 I guess I better clarify my position a bit, before the flames get any higher. I don't disdain theory. Quite the opposite. I delight in theory. My first love was pure mathematics. I studied on the "third floor" at the University of Texas, when it was the purest of pure. Took the last course that R.L. Moore taught. Got admitted to the math graduate school at the University of Texas when I was a sophomore. How come? I was running out of graduate courses to take, so they admitted me before I used them all up. (And I had all A's.) Okay, maybe there was a little bragging going on there, but I think I made my point: I've got nothing against math, and nothing against theory. As I mentioned, I taught two years as Visiting Associate Professor in the C.S. department of a well known midwestern university. I taught undergraduate and graduate courses in the Theory of Parsing and Translation, and in the Design and Analysis of Algorithms. Love that stuff. But over the years, I have come to believe that the concrete must both precede and follow theory. This is as true in music and athletics as it is in math and computation theory. Charlie Parker, the great jazz saxophone master is said to have advised, "First learn your horn. Then learn all the theory. Then forget all that and just play." Some people start with theory (they don't learn the horn), and they end with theory (they never just play). I get irritated with people who, it appears to me at least, can't "play computer" (because they have never practiced) but who posture around clucking about theory and generally acting superior. I understand full well that it is my problem that I allow such things to bother me, if only a little bit. But recall that the posting which started this gave and asked for examples of "irritating people". I was a little irritated by the request. So I took it at face value, and impetuously dashed off the answer. I probably should not have. One more word of appology: I realized later that I may have left the impression that there may have been of these "irritating people" at the university which once employed me. I hope I did not give that impression, because I really liked the people I worked with there. Still do. I did't name the institution, only because I saw no reason to do so in a posting which was probably going to draw some heat. So who were these "irritating people"? I was thinking mostly of visiting lecturers, people I've met at computer conferences and at parties, and (yes) self-professed World's Foremost Authorities who post articles on the net. There now. I don't know whether I made matters better or worse. Oh. One more thing. As usual, most of the favorable responses have come through email. (And all the email responses were favorable.) Stuff like, "Thanks for saying what I wanted to say." And as usual, all the unfavorable responses were posted back to the net. Funny how that works.