Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!shadooby!accuvax.nwu.edu!tank!uxc!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!cveg!hcx!jms From: jms@hcx.uucp (Michael Stanley) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Portability and the Ivory Tower (was Re: Book on Microsoft C) Message-ID: <2170@cveg.uucp> Date: 4 Apr 89 03:17:16 GMT References: <754@oravax.UUCP> <225800146@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> <9937@smoke.BRL.MIL> <948@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu> Sender: netnews@cveg.uucp Organization: College of Engineering, University of Arkansas, Fayetteville Lines: 31 In article <948@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu>, hascall@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (John Hascall) writes: > In article <42674c5e.b11a@falcon.engin.umich.edu> ejd@caen.engin.umich.edu (Edward J Driscoll) writes: > > >You're right, 'vi' is an excellent example. I tried to teach a > >Mac programmer (with an MS from MIT) how to use it, and he > >thought it laughably brutal compared to even the most simple > >Mac editor. Do you really prefer h,j,k, and l to using a mouse? > > Yes. I'm certainly not the worlds largest fan of vi, but using a mouse > to do simple cursor positioning is ludicrous. Why take your hands off > the keyboard just to move over a couple of spaces? I have no doubt that if our future includes a world with a computer in every house, we aren't going to get there without providing an interface for the 'ordinary' user that is simple to use. The Mac is certainly a 'successful' step in that direction (of course the Mac borrowed many of its ideas from previous and, at least to me, less well known systems). HOWEVER, for those of us who are used to a system designed towards the needs of hackers (UNIX for example), the user interface is, after learning how to use it, quite acceptable. I'm firmly convinced that I can use vi MUCH faster than I could and comperable editor on the Mac. Sorry for posting this letter to comp.lang.c (it doesn't quite fit), but, I'm just responding to a note I saw. Michael Stanley (...!uunet!harris.cis.ksu.edu!jms@hcx)