Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ulowell!cg-atla!duane From: duane@cg-atla.UUCP (Andrew Duane) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Portability and the Ivory Tower (was Re: Book on Microsoft C) Summary: Mice and Editors Message-ID: <6883@cg-atla.UUCP> Date: 4 Apr 89 13:14:45 GMT References: <754@oravax.UUCP> <225800146@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> <9937@smoke.BRL.MIL> <948@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu> Organization: Agfa Compugraphic Division, Wilmington, Mass Lines: 31 In article <948@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu>, hascall@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (John Hascall) writes: > In article <42674c5e.b11a@falcon.engin.umich.edu> ejd@caen.engin.umich.edu (Edward J Driscoll) writes: > >You're right, 'vi' is an excellent example. I tried to teach a > >Mac programmer (with an MS from MIT) how to use it, and he > >thought it laughably brutal compared to even the most simple > >Mac editor. Do you really prefer h,j,k, and l to using a mouse? > > Yes. I'm certainly not the worlds largest fan of vi, but using a mouse > to do simple cursor positioning is ludicrous. Why take your hands off > the keyboard just to move over a couple of spaces? > By the way, I'm not being anti-mouse here (I have one on my workstation > and it is great for things like cut&paste), but I think it's silly to > try to do everything with it. > John Hascall / ISU Comp Center I agree. We modified EMACS here to use the mouse to position around in the buffer and between windows. After a couple of weeks of playing with it ("Boy, isn't this NEATO KEEN!") everyone stopped using it. I don't even know if the mouse code is even compiled into it any more. The moral: I don't know what. But it certainly doesn't make sense to use the mouse for everything. VI's h/j/k/l sucks big-time, yes. Is a mouse the the answer, no. Andrew L. Duane (JOT-7) w:(508)-658-5600 X5993 h:(603)-434-7934 Compugraphic Corp. decvax!cg-atla!duane 200 Ballardvale St. ulowell/ \laidback Wilmington, Mass. 01887 cbosgd!ima/ \cgeuro Mail Stop 200II-3-5S ism780c/ \wizvax Only my cat shares my opinions, and she's breaking in the new help.