Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ukma!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ultra.UUCP!wayne From: wayne@ultra.UUCP (Wayne Hathaway) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: new terminal names Message-ID: <8904061537.AA00580@lear.ultra.com> Date: 6 Apr 89 15:37:35 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 31 > >x IBM-2741 > I love it! The terminal that TELNET GO-AHEAD was designed for isn't > on the Official Terminal Names list! As someone who was slightly involved with this issue ( 1/2 :-} ), I'd like to argue that the TELNET GO-AHEAD was "designed" for half-duplex HOST operation, not really for a particular terminal (although admittedly the infamous 2741 was the most common at the time). That is, it was the overall IBM philosophy of half-duplex operation with locked terminals that introduced the need to know when to allow/expect input, which is all the GO-AHEAD was for. It made no difference whether the terminals involved were 2741's, 2740's, 3270's ("modern" boob tubes), or even ASR33's -- they were ALL driven with the idea that there was a time for waiting for output and there was a time for typing input, and the HOST was the one who determined which was which. The GO-AHEAD was introduced to try to give the host at least a hint as to how to make this determination (although most implementations did little actual good). Of course, all this has become a moot point now that IBM has joined the rest of the universe with AIX and such. (Right ... Try selling THAT one to the thousands of TSO users sitting at their 3270's right now with that maddening little "X" shining brightly at the bottom!) Wayne Hathaway Ultra Network Technologies domain: wayne@Ultra.COM 101 Daggett Drive Internet: ultra!wayne@Ames.ARC.NASA.GOV San Jose, CA 95134 uucp: ...!ames!ultra!wayne 408-922-0100