Path: utzoo!yunexus!ists!eric From: eric@ists.ists.ca (Eric M. Carroll) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: IP based authentication of hosts Keywords: IP authentication Message-ID: <376@ists.ists.ca> Date: 9 Apr 89 22:34:35 GMT Article-I.D.: ists.376 Reply-To: eric@ists.ists.ca (Eric M. Carroll) Organization: Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science Lines: 20 While pondering the vulnerabilities that we are about to expose ourselves to when we connect up to the Internet, I have been left with some questions about the believability of IP addresses. Namely, most bsd/sunOs authentication is done on the basis of host name (ie ip address) then (sometimes) uid. UID authentication is clearly meaningless. But given a packet coming in to my machine with a forged IP source address, what are the chances of an attacker actually establishing a real tcp connection? What UDP based services would *not* require a response to work (ie what could he do blind)? What conditions would be required to allow the attacker to sucessfully represent themselves as another host? A first cut look at the problem suggests that in the world of routers, forged IP address can be delivered to the target but responses don't get returned to the attacker. A one-way connection. Looks useless at first glance. Any comments or paper references would be appreciated. Email to me, and I will summarize. Thanks.