Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!pasteur!ames!amdcad!rpw3 From: rpw3@amdcad.AMD.COM (Rob Warnock) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: new terminal names Message-ID: <25207@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: 13 Apr 89 01:02:16 GMT References: <8904111615.AA00723@lear.ultra.com> Reply-To: rpw3@amdcad.UUCP (Rob Warnock) Organization: [Consultant] San Mateo, CA Lines: 25 By the way, dropping support for go-ahead may not be a disaster, even if you have some of those "old" terminals. Back in 19-ought-74 (or so), at Digital Communications Assoc., we made our network processors capable of doing the reverse -- supporting 2741's as "full-duplex" terminals on PDP-10's. [Why? Well, there were these customers who had 2741's...] It may have been sluggish [and by modern sensibilities *ug-lee!*], but it worked. You could even run character-at-a-time programs like TECO and DDT on a 2741. [You know, type "1234/" and the contents of location "1234" come out on the same line.] Yes, we required the 2741 to have the "reverse break" option, wherein the host can lock your keyboard even if you haven't typed "return" yet. Conversely, we unlocked the keyboard whenever the host user process was in TTY input wait. [There was more to it than that, of course.] My point is that in a "full-duplex world" those older terminals can still be supported to a great extent by providing appropriate filters. Rob Warnock Systems Architecture Consultant UUCP: {amdcad,fortune,sun}!redwood!rpw3 DDD: (415)572-2607 USPS: 627 26th Ave, San Mateo, CA 94403