Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!oberon!pollux.usc.edu!papa From: papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Used DPAINT [I & II] for sale Message-ID: <16404@oberon.USC.EDU> Date: 8 Apr 89 21:08:19 GMT References: <16386@oberon.USC.EDU> <6789@ecsvax.UUCP> Sender: news@oberon.USC.EDU Reply-To: papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) Distribution: usa Organization: Felsina Software, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 36 In article <6789@ecsvax.UUCP> urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes: >Since you are a commercial software author and publisher, I think it's >appropriate to ask. >Is it legal and/or ethical to sell the outdated copies of purchased >software after one has upgraded to a more recent version? >Is this only permissible if one has purchased a full new license for >the new version of the program? >Do you know if the purchaser of the outdated copies is generally >permitted to also purchase "special upgrade price" upgrades? >What is your i.e. Felsina Software co. policy on such transactions? By law, I can do WHATEVER I WANT after I have purchased software, as far as selling it, burning it, whathever. Licensing agreements can only (try to) limit the number of COPIES one makes for backup purposes. As far as "upgrading" is concerned, it is up to the publisher to decide how to handle that. EA makes sure that ONLY 1 copy can be upgraded by asking for the PHYSICAL manual cover. In the past when we handled registrations for A-Talk Plus, we accepted "release" letters from poople that were selling the software to a third party and releasing to them rights to future upgrades. I know of other publishers that are doing the same. In the case of "large" quantities, EA technique is probably the best, since only about 10% of users are said to be returning their registration. Other companies like MANX and Lattice, keep a very complete database of their registered users, and since most of these depend on updates, they usually send in the registration card. In this case, the control is much higher. Even in this case, one is free to SELL 'old' copies of MANX and Lattice, though the purchaser won't be able to register them, and therefore upgrade them. The Lattice licensing agreement states to "treat this software like a book". As a used book that can be resold, software can be resold. When you get a New edition of a book, possibly discounted, you don't lose the rights to sell the 'old' copy. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=