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From: robertd@tekigm2.MEN.TEK.COM (Robert Dexter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: I'm Miffed about binscii, shrinkit
Message-ID: <4429@tekigm2.MEN.TEK.COM>
Date: 3 Apr 89 22:48:26 GMT
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Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.
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I am having a frustrating time with my appleIIe and these wonderful
programs that I am attempting to download.

I grabbed HyperC and Mad Apple Forth off of the net. It took a long
time to get all of the files for HyperC. Forth was easy. I finally
got Binscii1.01, BLU2.28 and many flavors of shrinkit. It took many
nights of work to get the hyperc files into one shrunk file. I am
not pleased with the amount of work required.

All three verson of shrinkit (0.95, 1.0, 1.01) all print a 6 in the
upper left corner of the screen and then goes into the monitor at
the first press of any key. I can write an assembly program that is
much smaller that does the same thing. The lastest version had the
documents (surprise) with it. To my dismay, it says I need a 65C02
and mousetext ROM (GS requirement?). I have never heard of this ROM.

I thought perhaps the II+ unshrink would do the job. I got that to
the point where it will run. I can go to the disk, select the file, 
and that is it. There is *no* clue as to how to get it to unshrink.
Any key I press takes it back a menu level.

I still want to try out the HyperC, but I don't see how, if shrinkit is
machine dependant.

I then set that aside, thinking perhaps I can make use of Forth instead.
I read with delight that it didn't call for Shrinkit.
I ran it through binscii, and then started blu. It said there is
not enough room on the target disk. It needs 283 blocks and my
newly formatted PRODOS disk with *nothing* on it only has 273 blocks.
Another dead end.

As a side note, how about having binscii read past mailer info?

Well, here I sit with a flood of diskettes on my desk, and I can't
do a *damn* thing. If I have to invest in a hard disk, I might
just go ahead a get an IBM clone instead. I like my Apple, but it
sure isn't as easy to use as the AT at work. I have never had
trouble downloading PC software and unpacking it.

Any clues as to how do I do this on a standard IIe with duodisk
would be a great help.