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From: SELLSWORTH@HMCVAX.BITNET ("Scott, part time fuzzy")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Hmmm.
Message-ID: <8904070949.aa23025@SMOKE.BRL.MIL>
Date: 7 Apr 89 13:49:00 GMT
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>From: Cary Farrier <farrier@APPLE.COM>
>In article <12059@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> tsang@cory.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Donald
> Tsang) writes:
>>In article <8904060243.aa28839@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> SELLSWORTH@HMCVAX.BITNET
>> ("Scott, part time fuzzy") writes:
>>> [msg deleted]
>>
>>You might try copying BASIC.SYSTEM from SYSTEM.DISK onto your telecom disk.
>>This contains all of Applesoft's runtime DOS routines ('cat', 'catalog',
>>'open', etc).  Think of it as half of what DOS 3.3 gave you.
>If you want a disk that will boot into a ProDOS 8 application, do the following
   :
 [instructions deleted...]
>       1) Start with a GS/OS system disk (yes, a gs/os disk)
>       8) Boot this disk.

  Slight problem with this...

  I am using a CMS 60m drive.  Most of my boot time is spent waiting for the
damn thing to get up to speed.  Usually not a problem, but IF I am booting a
GS/OS disk, I **must** have the critter on line.  I believe one of the first
things that GS/OS does is poll all of the devices to see which ones are really
out there.

  This is especially annoying because I have one of CMS BRAIN DAMAGED SCSI
CARDS that I would kill to replace!!!  (lack of cash prevents this at the
moment)  Thier card leaks enough current to the apple while the drive is on
that one can't shut off the computer and cold boot without shutting down the
drive as well.  Annoying!.

  What really bothers me is that P8 used to be an effective, working prodos
file.  Formerly, one could boot straight into P8 without need of anything else.
Kind of nice to have the capability.  Does anyone out there know if it is still
possible to make a 3.5 inch, booting disk with only a PROdos file, sans ANY
startup files that poll all devices?

  I am going to give it another look-see sometime soon.  Also, does this mean
that a 5.25, 140K floppy needs _all_ of the gs/os files on it to run programs
that require basic.system?  I _must_ have forgotten a vital file or two
somewhere.

  Thanks, by the way, to those that have replied thus far.  Many decent ideas
for experimentation...

                                     Scott
                                     SELLSWORTH@HMCVAX
                                     sellswor@jarthur.claremont.edu