Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!hc!pprg.unm.edu!unmvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!UNCAMULT.BITNET!CYLau From: CYLau@UNCAMULT.BITNET (The Ultron) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Binscii mess Message-ID: <890407022815.611675@UNCAMULT.BITNET> Date: 7 Apr 89 02:28:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 38 Reason why ProTerm's Kermit messes up the majority of BinSCII format downloads: ProTerm's Kermit protocol automatically translates lf into crlf (or something similar to that), but what that does, is if the file was BinSCII'd for a Unix system (with only lf separating) ProTerm will translate all those into crlf.. and BinSCII will choke on the extra cr on each line... Executioner on the other hand, doesn't care what's on the end of a line, as long as the line is terminated (it DOES, but it doesn't choke like BinSCII when something extra is added) To correct this problem, there are several solutions: 1- Download with an xmodem variant-> xmodem preserves the current form of the file and thus BinSCII will have no problems 2- After download, load the file into the ProTerm editor (one of the ONLY things I LIKE about ProTerm) and replace all cr with nothing (ie. do a replace of ctrl-m with nothing (hit return in response to "replace with" prompt)) and then resave the file and process with BinSCII 3- Get the "REAL" Kermit 65 (thanks to Ted Medin for this wonderful program!) and turn off the crlf translation before downloading... (Kermit 65 3.85 is also a bit faster than ProTerm's Kermit, especially if you set the packet size to maximum (ProTerm is limited to the "standard" 80 character packet)) Those are the solutions to the problems... none are really elegant... Maybe someone can fix BinSCII so it doesn't choke on a unix encoded BinSCII which has extra cr's inserted?? (Dave Whitney-> Are you listening??) Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed herein are Replies to: entirely my own, but they can be CYLau@UNCAMULT.BITNET yours for only $29.95 plus tax.* CYLau%UNCAMULT@MITVMA.MIT.EDU (* where applicable.) (or whatever is on the header) -------------------------------------------------------------------------